Tpt life Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 These are hand tools. I too am curious what possible safety rule you could have violated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted August 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Hello TIODS & C Because I was not using cramps to secure my wood, when I created the knife wall I was chiseling towards my clamping hand. Although I kept my hand well back, no closer than 8" or so, and the chiseling was a light rocking motion it was, by the book bad practice. I'm used to using body pressure when on trestles and very rarely use clamps, and I can also judge based on experience when I feel at risk. However I do respect the point I must not promote/share bad habits. Here's the link to the source of the issue on other forum (UK based) I posted this on. Just go to the bottom of the page. The dangerous, reckless and foolhardy was from a direct message on the inherent risks I showed within the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Byrdie Posted August 6, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Oh fer cryin' out loud!!! If you don't put that video back up I'm never watching another of yours again. A tool is no more dangerous than the hands of the person using it. You clearly demonstrate the skill to use it properly. The fool that felt it necessary to criticize your technique clearly needs to get a life and then focus on living that. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 +1 on What Byrdie says. If it bugs you that much, put a text disclaimer in the video, but put it back up. Don't let the trolls win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 I have to agree with the 2 posts above. Nothing you did was legitimately dangerous. I think someone needs to un-bunch the panties! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Thank you gents. I will put it back up again when I have a moment (or a slightly modified version), hopefully later today. I guess it was a first time someone went to town on something I showed, (no doubt the first of many) it caught me a bit of guard. Byrdie, I'm delighted you think I have some demonstrable skills and I hope you can still watch the rough and ready vids I'm doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryMcK Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 You could always disable comments for the videos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Here it is in all it's dangerous glory! Disclaimer. Do not cut towards your off hand! (like you didn't know already). I push the limit here, I don't recommend you do the same. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXardYuA43A&feature=youtu.be Terry, thanks. I have disabled comments. Not everyone out there is as balanced as the woodtalk community. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Nice Haydon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 I am with you G. The type of force you are using will never skip out of that timber. Even if it did, that type of force would stop well short of your hand. That technique is very nice for getting clean shoulders in soft lumber. Thanks for the demo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Loving this journal so far...good job, Graham. Oh fer cryin' out loud!!! If you don't put that video back up I'm never watching another of yours again. A tool is no more dangerous than the hands of the person using it. You clearly demonstrate the skill to use it properly. The fool that felt it necessary to criticize your technique clearly needs to get a life and then focus on living that. Exactly. Tools don't mangle fingers, people do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Thanks again for the kind words everyone.Took a bit of time out of my lunch hour and glued up the legs http://youtu.be/ZRWxfeIc1po?t I don't normally have to clean the edges up with a plane but as I'm using rough and ready wood with machine marks I just tidied up the mating faces a little. Though I would share the film studio with you........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted August 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 It's been a while but I'm in the throws of morticing the leg frames. Although I have access to two HCM's, 5 or more routers, a pillar drill etc I went the hand tool route. The leg frames have 1 x big through mortice and tenon and a haunched mortice and tenon at the top. All will become clearer when it's up together. By the book I should of reduced the width of the tenon a bit but quite honestly, IME I knew it would be fine. I was going to give two variations of cutting a mortice a go. Bevel edge chisel (the heavy duty general purpose type, blue chip and the like) and a mortice chisel. I allowed myself some indulgence and bought a good value 1/2" Narex mortice chisel from UK based workshop heaven and a Joseph Marples Mortice Gauge from the bay (but new). I've done round one with the bevel edge. http://youtu.be/3Psq7EmDuAA?t I have not really taken a classic approach to morticing, just what seemed to work, and go easy, the last time I hand cut a mortice was when I was 16 during the first year of my apprenticeship! Round 2 to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicks82 Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Graham the guy that made the comment on that being dangerous has probably never worked a day in the field in his life. I don't know how many times I am told that the way I use a skillsaw is dangerous, reckless, and foolhardy. If you don't respect the tool thats when you get bit Thanks for the videos keep up the good work. And if you are ever able to make it out this way and want to see our giant tress let me know. I live in humboldt county where the trees grow large 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted August 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Hi Charles, Thanks for the feedback. I need to travel and who knows, I can think of worse things to do than looking at awesome trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 You are a dangerous guy! Lol!! I didn't see anything wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted August 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Thanks Mel! Round 2. Well I am no expert with the hand morticing so who knows if I maximised the Narex or not. One thing is for sure it made me greedy. With a bevel edge I knew I could not be direct so I took a lighter bite, not so with the mortice chisel, I got maybe a bit to direct? http://youtu.be/bTKW65zcZII I did have one issue with the Narex (and only one, it is a superb mortice chisel) the first edge crumbled and chipped. I contacted Matthew at Workshop Heaven and he explained that because of the unique way the Narex is quenched the tip can be a bit weak. After the second sharpen there was no issue. Which do I prefer. A tough call, all I can really say is that although I'm delighted with the value and quality of the Narex I don't feel its essential. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom King Posted August 25, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 The idiot who posted something about that being dangerous needs to stay in bed. Bad things can happen to you if you get out of bed in the morning. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted August 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 OK, another post in quick succession. Cutting the tenons for the leg frames. To be fair most of my vids have been s#=t so far and this one is no exception. That said it is better than the rest. Number one you get to see my face (lucky you), secondly I look less of a d@>k than usual and my joint fit's off the saw (apart from the slightest tickle with a chisel, so not off the saw then.....). On balance I think I do prefer cutting to splitting tenons, I find them more consistent (or not) http://youtu.be/EtY7W6EoF5g 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilburpan Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 The speed at which you cut that tenon was impressive enough. The fit you achieve off the saw makes me want to just hang it up right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 I need to make me a sawing bench! Nice video too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted August 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Thanks guys. The one area I was dissapointed with was where I got too aggressive cutting slots in the tenon for wedges and got some bendy saw action, doh! Apart from that it was OK. I like the end where I tap it with the mallet and it gives a nice solid ringing clunk noise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicks82 Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Thats what generations of training will do for ya great videos. I may have to take a vacation out that way so you can teach me your mad skills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Was pretty sad when there some great ball games on and I found myself watching Haydon instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Wonderful example of hand tool skills! Until you have tried it a few times most guys think it is easy,it's not! Thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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