G S Haydon Posted August 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Thanks guys that's very kind, sorry to get in the way of the ball game TIODS . I think it's also pleasing to do this using a cheap disposable, saw costing less than £10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 I'm still surprised that after reading the Schwarz book on workbenches, you decided to go against the Roubo bench. That guy loves those benches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted August 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Mel, It was a tough one. The Schwarz in his very good book on the topic makes a very compelling case for the French type. I even designed my own Roubo and uploaded it to the sketchup Library on this Forum. I swayed between the two types for many Months. A few of the reasons I went British was cultural, I'm British and it felt right to interact with that. It's a quick build (why am I not finished then ). I think if I could get a whole day I could nearly make one complete. I don't need a bench to build a traditional bench. It's cheap to build. A while ago I think popular woodworking did the "$175 Workbench". Excluding your vice choice I think this bench would easily come within that bracket. I will not shed a tear when I hit it, chip it, stain it, tear a chunk out of it etc It's proven, pick up nearly any UK joinery text from the 1820's to the present day and you will see a variation on this theme. I like choosing the underdog. You gonna tel me some old cheese eating surrender monkeys designed a better bench, get outta here . I'm going to stop now because I'm reminded of this guy . I did that exact thing at college when asked how many types of doors I could think of, got half way through and all of a sudden all I could think about was shrimp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 I knew it! I love the Simpsons clip! I'll have to find an American bench to build 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 I knew it! I love the Simpsons clip! I'll have to find an American bench to build American benches are super easy! Couple milk crates, 2X4's and a pair of vise grips. Done! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 American benches are super easy! Couple milk crates, 2X4's and a pair of vise grips. Done! Done, and Done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted August 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Thats what generations of training will do for ya great videos. I may have to take a vacation out that way so you can teach me your mad skills Charles, you would be very welcome indeed and thanks for the kind works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhl.verona Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 I'm still surprised that after reading the Schwarz book on workbenches, you decided to go against the Roubo bench. That guy loves those benches Are you kidding? We fought them for over a hundred years! (And came second ). Nice videos Graham, though I'd love to hear a bit more grunting, or a tongue sticking out in concentration. You're making things seem far too easy. John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 I didn't mean to bring up old rivalries. Great video clip! I love those movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted August 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Classic John, It's been a while since I have seen some Monty Python. Any rivalries are firmly tongue in cheek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdie Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 American benches are super easy! Couple milk crates, 2X4's and a pair of vise grips. Done! That's way over built! A pair of saw horses and an old door is the essential starting kit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkirby Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 I spent yesterday sat at my grinding wheel setting up a fore plane. I'm now poised to get my top finished and heaven forbid i might have some money to buy the rest of the bench. You better get a move on or i will be finished before you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChetlovesMer Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Can I be the last to chime in on the chisel danger thing? I really think you'd rip the fingers off your right hand long before that chisel would ever touch your left hand. Which is my way of saying it looked fine to me. Btw, this post has been very entertaining. Nice vids, Graham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted August 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Once again thank you all . mkirby, Don't let your mouth write a check you ass cant cash, btw, if you do finish first, this is happening . I would say your odds on favorite at the pace this build has been progressing . What kind of fore plane have you got or is it a different camber on your bevel up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChetlovesMer Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Oh Graham, You did not just use a clip of the Undertaker in a woodworking forum... did you? I'm shaking my head partially in appreciation and partially in embarrassment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted August 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Yes I did Chet, and don't pretend, it is with 100% appreciation you shake your head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChetlovesMer Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Well, Graham, there is a hint of embarrassment for myself. After all, it made me giggle. BTW - About 10 years ago, I saw the Undertaker in the Minneapolis Airport. Yeah, really. He is a huge ... HUGE dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted August 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 I knew you would love it Chet. Brilliant to hear you saw the Taker at the airport , I used to be really entertained by it when it was WWF, a mix of laughter and WTF ! (I promise that is the last thing on wrestling) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted September 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 Leg frames have been glued up today. On joinery like this I don't think you can beat a good wedge. In my mind at least it kinda creates the Holly Grail of joints. A fully enclosed dovetail. I like to drive the wedges into the tenon. My reasoning is that the wedge has two faces of long grain to bond to whereas when driven against the outer edges of the tenon there is only one long grain bond. The wedges on the outer faces also, in my mind at least, only create a tight joint whereas the wedges in the tenon make the tenon actually part and fit the splayed mortice. Needles to say I'm a fan of wedging. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 +1 for the Simpsons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted September 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 Dry as a bone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted September 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Hopefully some more progress this week. British benches are known for those wide aprons. These aprons provide extra rigidity to the bench, reinforce the typically thinner top and provide a location for bench pegs or holdfasts. I did a little experiment on some scrap wood using an 18mm bit to bore a hole to see if the Richard Maguire Tomes Holdfast would work well in the 38mm – 1.5″ apron and bench top. I had my concerns as nearly all holfasts I have seen have been used in thicker French style tops. I need not had worried, they clamped down very hard hard indeed. All the holes were bored with an old Stanley brace and bit. Nothing special, plastic handles, pitted chrome, still worked like a dream though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 This is looking good! I like the large front apron! Makes me second guess a big decision I am about to make regarding my bench! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChetlovesMer Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Graham, I always thought that when British people say "wedge". They are referring to a golf club.... I guess I was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted September 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 This is looking good! I like the large front apron! Makes me second guess a big decision I am about to make regarding my bench! Mel I was going French for a long time, but I felt this type of bench is perhaps not the evolutionary dead end the Schwarz thought it was in his book. At the end of the day it's impossible to cover all bases in a design and I look forward to finding out the pros a cons of this bench. It's cheap and quick too, which is nice . Chet Golf is something I still don't understand, I'd much rather see Nelson use his wedgy skills on Millhouse than Ian Rose use his Wedge on the green . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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