G S Haydon Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Just wondering if you lucky devils get a good price on your Lie-Nielsen when compared to the rest of the world.? I think we are paying £261.50 which in USD is $404. I have a feeling I'm going to become jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pghmyn Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Bronze $350 Iron $300 (#4 smoothing plane) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 What plane are you getting? I see that the low angle jack here is US$245, and a website I found in the UK has it for £213 or so, which is about US$330. So yes, you are paying more. Sorry. Maybe you should just visit Warren, Maine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted August 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 I'm sure I could wangle that on expenses somehow . I'm not in the market to buy, but I'm curious at the difference. Part of knowing this help me understand why LN is so popular aside from the fantastic quality and performance. These clones are tempting should I want to invest and are cheaper in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wilkins Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 How are Clifton's these days? I would buy British (do with cars) if I were there but is that even an option these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryMcK Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 We normally get charged the same in GBP £ as you pay in US or CDN $ However in real terms that means we are paying around 50% more. That is if we buy from European dealers. If we order direct over the internet the import duty we have to pay bumps it up even more. That seems to be the way of the world these days sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wilkins Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 That's about what I experienced when I was there in the mid 90's Terry. Petrol was a little cheaper then but being in Oxford city centre that didn't mean much to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodbloke Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 I'm sure I could wangle that on expenses somehow . I'm not in the market to buy, but I'm curious at the difference. Part of knowing this help me understand why LN is so popular aside from the fantastic quality and performance. These clones are tempting should I want to invest and are cheaper in the UK. The QS planes from Workshop Heaven are excellent. Not quite the same finish as a LN (which are really in a league of their own) plane, but then they're only around 1/3ish of the price. You also get their excellent version of O1 steel for the cutters. 'You pays your money' etc etc - Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhl.verona Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 We normally get charged the same in GBP £ as you pay in US or CDN $ However in real terms that means we are paying around 50% more. That is if we buy from European dealers. If we order direct over the internet the import duty we have to pay bumps it up even more. That seems to be the way of the world these days sadly Same in Italy. I received the Lie Nielsen catalogue 2013, with a note saying for '$' read '€'. Import duties are around 35% here, plus the 2-6 weeks customs delay. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkirby Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Sometimes its cheaper to buy direct from the states even with customs charges and shipping, or better yet have a weekend on the continent and bring one back with you. Graham the Quengsheng (or however you spell it) are marketed as woodriver in the states. I have the jack works fine, sides arnt square to the sole so no good for shooting with but it eats end grain for breakfast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryMcK Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Graham I have one of these http://www.workshopheaven.com/tools/Quangsheng_Chisel_Plane.html and was blown away with its quality. It really is seriously good and if that is a mark of their quality I think that the other planes should be as good. I have only heard good comments about Quangsheng. Tony Clifton are still making some of the finest, if pricey, wood planes to come out of Sheffield. I have a couple of their specialist spokeshaves and they are excellent matching the quality of LN or LV. I am however a big LN fan having many of their tools and also a few Veritas too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted August 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 I do like Clifton but they are the same price as LN in the UK. I think the QS would be my most likely route should I choose to indulge myself one day. V Jealous of your rates on LN tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wm_crash Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Quangsheng are basically the Woodcraft Woodriver planes. Some people like them, some people have vested interest and therefore praise them, and some people just don't want to deal with them - that be me. cheers, wm_crash, the friendly hooligan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Z. Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 What part of that 261.50 is VAT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 ==> Just wondering if you lucky devils get a good price on your Lie-Nielsen when compared to the rest of the world.? ==> I think we are paying £261.50 which in USD is $404. I have a feeling I'm going to become jealous. If you go to a woodworking show, you can usually stop by the LN booth and get a 'show price' on their kit... It's usually about 15% lower... Does LN attend shows in the UK? If you call LN directly, you can get 20% on a large order (like $3K or so). You may want to contact LN's UK distributor... There are occasionally good deals on eBay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted August 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Thanks for the tips guys. VAT is 20% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 ==> VAT is 20% hate when that happens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdie Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 I've been following this thread without commenting but keep thinking it would almost be worth it for someone to set up a purchasing & shipping service. More work than I want to do but a guy could easily buy here and ship with a 5-10% premium and still get it lower than what it sounds like you're paying to buy direct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Would that constitute tariff or tax evasion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Don Z. Posted August 11, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 So take off the VAT and you're looking at about $325. Which tool are we comparing? Start by tossing tea into the harbour... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdie Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Would that constitute tariff or tax evasion? I suspect you'd need a qualified lawyer to answer that. I know that when parcels get shipped to another country value is generally asked for and they are subject to custom's inspection. I worked for a printer at one time that was asked to ship drug study manuals into Russia by our customer. The manuals ended up being held up in Customs for 3 weeks while they requested an outrageous tariff before they would release them to the end user. We only knew about it because the end user was called in to pick up the packages and refused to pay the charges. There was a lengthy process where revised paperwork was sent changing the declaration of the contents so that the packages would clear customs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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