Freddie Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Hardboard noooo! It will eventually sag its way out of the grooves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted February 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Hardboard noooo! It will eventually sag its way out of the grooves. What else for some felt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 I know the boxes are shallow and you want to maintain as much interior as possible, but the boxes are also a little wide and i think it would be a little too much span for 1/4 ply as well. I always use at least 1/2 and you can rabbet the bottom so you only have to make a small groove in the box sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Would depend on how much weight will be in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwood Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Stick some 1/2 ply in the bottoms and put a 15 degree shaker bevel on them. Bevel down of course. Gotta keep the shaker dream alive you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 I dont think i would bevel ply and expose the layers, if you were to go that route i would go solid wood and float the panel. As for 1/4 and weight issues, i think it doesnt realy matter about weight its more a span issue, and the ply will eventually relax and start sagging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwood Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Regardless we got's to have a shaker bevel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechwood Chip Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 I think 1/4" ply supported in dados on all four sides can handle a 12" span. If it tries to bend between two sides it will be held straight by the other two sides. In order to sag it would need to bend like a handkerchief, and ply tends to bend like paper (keeping one dimension straight). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Youre probably right beech, i just tend to overbuild drawer and box bottoms to avoid down the road headaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pghmyn Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 I think we're overthinking these little boxes with weight. The lip under the dado will give out before that plywood deforms enough to make its way out. Although, since were on the idea of solid wood, the method that doucette and wolfe uses with beveled solid wood would look sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Well sam, if ur referring to the doucette and wolfe method then you are no longer referring to 1/4" now are you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted February 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 If this were a chest of drawers I would certainly approach this differently. These are simple little boxes that I am over complicating (as usual) and do nothing more than hold an envelope with a key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechwood Chip Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Is it a really heavy key? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pghmyn Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Well sam, if ur referring to the doucette and wolfe method then you are no longer referring to 1/4" now are you? Hey now, I was just trying to put a stick in the mix If this were a chest of drawers I would certainly approach this differently. These are simple little boxes that I am over complicating (as usual) and do nothing more than hold an envelope with a key. And we are here to further the over complication. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted February 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Final design. There will be little grooves on the long sides to facilitate the removal of the box sitting above in the nested position. I'll wrap these up soon. I ran into an "opportunity" tonight while working in these. It's a small one, and already solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Looking great Mel! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Crawford Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Really curious about the "opportunity." Maybe we all could learn something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted February 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Really curious about the "opportunity." Maybe we all could learn something. Ok, I'll share. The only thing you'll learn is that I am a human, and I make mistakes. Ok, I've made one mistake. And this is it The photo shows four stacks of box sides, one stack is curiously taller than the rest! I knew what happened immediately. But let's make it a fun game, who can guess what I did wrong? No guessing if you already know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 They didn't make it through the last planer pass like the rest did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted February 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 They didn't make it through the last planer pass like the rest did? Yep, missed the whole board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Join the club ! I think we all have done something like that ( or it just hasn't been your day yet ). Figuring out how to fix it should be a learning experience, the kind you will never forget ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Measure once cut twice. Doh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Measure once cut twice. Doh! And it could still be too short 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted March 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Finished milling and mitering! Next, is groovin' and gluin'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Don't forget to rabbet like a bad habit! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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