PWRFULZ3R0 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 I need to create some panels and I'm trying to figure out what's going to be my cheapest way of doing so. I own a Bosch router (MRC23EVSK, trigger control) with I believe 2.3 hp. I have read that this isn't the best router to be used in a router table due to the trigger control. Bosch sells a couple of tables that work with it but I haven't read anything great about them and I'm not really interested in dropping the cash for one unless necessary. So I was thinking of using a horizontal panel bit since it comes with the bearing, that way I don't need a super accurate fence? And I could just mount the router to a piece of acrylic glass that drops in to a rabbeted piece of plywood (that I mount to something). I'm not convinced with this plan, but it seems like it should be possible if done well and with good advice! But I'm willing to concede and invest in a Bosch router table if necessary. Other options I've considered are using the table saw with some kind of jig to hold the panel (which is a drawer front) to do the short side. Or maybe just super splurging on a new hand tool and getting a Veritas skew rabbet plane. Anyone have any thoughts? I've included a link to the dresser/changing table I'm building from WOOD magazine that shows the look we're going for on the drawer fronts that we really like. http://amzn.com/B00286QZGW Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim0625 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 I...um....just got an error message....I need more coffee and I can read it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisphr Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Not the expert here, but I'll throw out an opinion... Looks like the drawer fronts are solid? Among the ideas I like the tablesaw jig, I think a jig like described in this video. Might be safer than router setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWRFULZ3R0 Posted July 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 THANKS FOR FINDING THAT CHRISPHR!!! That's brilliant, exactly what I needed. Why would anyone make a panel any other way? And the plywood to make the aux fence is way cheaper than the cost of a panel bit and/or router table! Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 >>Why would anyone make a panel any other way? See the square tenon profile on the right of these shapes and the way the slope or cove stops back from the edge? You cannot get this with your table saw method. Ok for what you and I may want to do, but invalid for reproduction work. The table saw method is a work around and while valid is less "authentic." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWRFULZ3R0 Posted July 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 I appreciate that C shaffer, I was definetly boggled as to why one would do it another way. I just palm striked my forehead upon reading your post. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Some people make a big deal about it, some do not. To each his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisphr Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 C is absolutely right. In fact here is the authentic way to sharpen a pencil (this has been posted a million times, but still funny). :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 A tablesaw can be used to make a much wider variety of profiles than most people think. See how Matthias Wandel demonstrates making a full cove and ogee moulding for a picture frame:http://woodgears.ca/frame/picture_frame.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 If you do end up using a router, hog off most of the wood out of the way with a vertical fence on a tablesaw, and only use the router bit to finish the last little bit of the profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Here is the sad thing about that pencil sharpening video..... It got the dude his own TV show on the National Geographic channel. http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/going-deep-with-david-rees/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim0625 Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 >>Why would anyone make a panel any other way?image.jpg See the square tenon profile on the right of these shapes and the way the slope or cove stops back from the edge? You cannot get this with your table saw method. Ok for what you and I may want to do, but invalid for reproduction work. The table saw method is a work around and while valid is less "authentic." How big does the router need to be to accomplish this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 My post is not about big or little but rather the mechanics of the profile and the physics of the cutting machine. Don was firmly in the shaper camp. Others here run big bits in 3 hp table mounts. I have never milled this with a router in one stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 I have ran a horizontal bit in my 2.25hp Bosch, and it worked fine. The trick is making it in multiple passes. As C Schaffer mentioned Don was in the shaper camp, and gave pretty compelling evidence that a horizontal bit on any router isn't a good idea. So much so that the next time I buy a panel raising bit, it will likely be a vertical bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 How about a vertical bit in a horizontal router? http://www.stumpynubs.com/horizontal-router.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWRFULZ3R0 Posted July 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Maybe if someone gave me the jig! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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