nod Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I'm just about to pull the trigger on that g555LX 14" band saw BW just picked up, but had to double check cList to make sure there wasn't something i was missing. There happens to be an older 18" grizzly fairly close to me. Needs a bit of cleanup, and the owner said he's send me model numbers, age, more pics, etc this evening. They're near the same price range (the used one is NOT a steal that's for sure), so i'm wondering if older, but bigger in this case is better? or if a new, smaller, warrantied machine is the smarter call? I can find an old lumber jock thread about an 18" griz a fella picked up for 150'ish back in 2012. This is not that kind of deal, and based on some searching looks like the model available may be the 220V version. anyhow, is 500-600 for a machine like that insanely priced? any help is appreciated. clist ad grizzly page - possible saw spec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggers Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I looked at the craigslist ad and the price seems to be pretty high to me. You can buy a new Grizzly 17" for a few hundred more. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 That would be a tough call since a new 17" is only 825.. On top of that, you get no warranties and a used machine. If it were my decision, I would either save a little more and buy the new saw or offer him less for his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I looked at the craigslist ad and the price seems to be pretty high to me. You can buy a new Grizzly 17" for a few hundred more. Just my opinion. You are right about that, unfortunately with a baby on the way, a few hundred isn't available. And a few other shop additions are going to need that extra cash anyhow. I'm hoping to keep the whole budget closer to <500 since that's about what the 14" is running. either way, if that 18" was 400ish, would it still be worthwhile? or is the new machine just better built and better working and the better value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Tarbell Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Did you try haggling with the guy? Classified ads are like job ads .. the poster always tries for their ideal result.. but they'll often settle for less. Offer the guy the price that you'd be willing to pay and state your reasoning. If he takes it then you're both happy.. if not then you buy a new one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 If you could get the saw for 350 or 400 and it's in good shape, then it might be a decent deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 If you could get the saw for 350 or 400 and it's in good shape, then it might be a decent deal. That's a long ways off the ask, but kind of what I'm hoping for as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 That would be a tough call since a new 17" is only 825.. but with shipping, I'm looking at another 100, making it almost twice the price of the 555 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 but with shipping, I'm looking at another 100, making it almost twice the price of the 555 Shipping is free right now from Grizzly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Shipping is free right now from Grizzly.. Is this Just not shown on their site? I see one or two items as free shipping, but everything else shows 79-99$ (shrug) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minorhero Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 What do you plan to do with the saw? Depending on model the 18 inch might not be more powerful or have a greater depth of cut. If all you plan to do is scrollwork then you really don't need the 18 inch. If you plan to resaw like mad then power is everything and what motor it has will be critical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Is this Just not shown on their site? I see one or two items as free shipping, but everything else shows 79-99$ (shrug) Suggest checking this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Suggest checking this thread been reading and following. I was about to jump on one of the 555s (one is free shipping, another isn't, but they come to same final price). But then I came across the 18.. which leads me to my dilema. I don't see the 17"s with free shipping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 You might give them a call and ask.. I have to be honest because I have one local, I really don't pay attention to their free shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 A couple of things on that listing. The saw was made in 1992, so I'd offer much lower due to having to clean that rusty table that looks like it was never waxed. It's 22 years old, so that's a factor as well. While old tools aren't a bad thing, you could use that to your advantage. You're gonna have to do some tuning up and a fair amount of cleanup on it. It's a 220V saw with a 2HP motor. I had a 15" Grizzly G1148 bandsaw as my first bandsaw. The saw you posted on CL has the same fence system I had, which was miserable, took forever to adjust, you have to setup the drift angle every time you lock down the fence since it locks from both sides of the table. It's not at all a repeatable process, takes about 5-7 minutes to take off the fence since you need to remove the bolts that hold the tubular rail on the table. The blade support post is really sloppy and you'll be fiddling with your blade guides every time you move it up and down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 I will also say, seeing that fence system again is making me cringe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 A couple of things on that listing. The saw was made in 1992, so I'd offer much lower due to having to clean that rusty table that looks like it was never waxed. It's 22 years old, so that's a factor as well. .... ..... ..... post is really sloppy and you'll be fiddling with your blade guides every time you move it up and down. Thanks T! That is all incredibly helpful information. I know it's used, but having an idea how old is very helpful! I'm not against scrubbing rust off, but yeah, if that's an indicator of how maintained or not... then what do the tires look like, guides, how rough is that fence? etc.. IF I do buy that saw, I'll only pull the trigger for much less, and just automatically assume a new fence needs to be purchased and installed. thanks again for the input! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minorhero Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 All the 14" grizzlys are 1hp motors. The 2hp in the 18 inch would make a big difference for resawing. If you are not planning on doing a lot of resawing then thats a non issue. If you are buying a bandsaw primarily for resawing then the 18 is probably going to be the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted December 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Another player in the mix... 17", but on the fixed frame (no option for riser). Only about 8" of resaw availble. Frankly, i have NO bandsaw at this point, so I have no idea if I'll be resawing wide stock or not. Sure, the idea sounds great, but will I do it? i have no idea at this point. If I go this route, I can still afford some other shop needs. And it's closer, and the guy was actually responsive where as the 18" fella is taking his time between communication. older 17" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Tarbell Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Unless you have a supply of wide boards coming in that you need to resaw, i'd just buy the $300 one. If in the future you find yourself needing the bigger resaw capabilities then you can likely sell the 17" one without any loss and then buy a bigger one. I'm guessing the older 17" one will work out just fine though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted December 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Thanks Bill. Thinking the same here. Heading out to check it. Will repost back.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted December 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Price and pressure, I pulled the trigger. As far as I could tell, it's actually a G1073 (16"). I'll try and pick it up tomorrow or Sunday, but for the price, was hard to beat. It's in great shape. Clean, no rust. tires looked good. Thing seems hardly used. Now, getting it home is going to be the fun part.. I'll post pics/notes once it's in the garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 All the 14" grizzlys are 1hp motors. The 2hp in the 18 inch would make a big difference for resawing. If you are not planning on doing a lot of resawing then thats a non issue. If you are buying a bandsaw primarily for resawing then the 18 is probably going to be the way to go. Actually, they do have 1 model 14" that has 1.5HP motor, the G0555X. http://www.grizzly.com/products/14-Extreme-Series-Bandsaw/G0555X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodieboy Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 I'd rather get a 14" band saw. Post pics soon when you get the band saw. Have you done some test runs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMasco Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 a 1992 Grizz will have a cast iron body. I have one and it's a great saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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