duckkisser Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Ok so grizzly has always had a mixed review depending on the person buying the machine. So this is not a question of if I should buy grizzly but rather which of their table saw should I buy. I'm sold on geting a more up to date table saw since a used one will still have some issues with safety and dust control. The table saw will end up being the work horse of my shop but it still has to be resonable priced that's why I'm going with grizzly. I want it to be easy to install the riving knife, access the inside for changing out the blade and removing dust from the machine. I have not had good luck in the last year of finding Used table saw on Craigslist that is in my price range. So I just settled on buying a new saw. I have my choice between these two saws. I'm mostly looking at the 5hp saw for the hp so is the 5hp saw worth the extra 121 dollers the router table is not needed since I want to build a enclosed router table so I can manage the dust better. http://www.grizzly.com/products/10-3-HP-240V-Cabinet-Left-Tilting-Table-Saw/G1023RLhttp://www.grizzly.com/products/10-5-HP-240V-Cabinet-Left-Tilting-Table-Saw/G1023RLWX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I take it you have the 220 power in your shop Duck? Both are good choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firehawk Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Please correctly me if I'm wrong, for $70 you get a built in router table and a 5 hp motor. Sounds like a no brainer! Does anyone see a downside to the RLWX? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckkisser Posted January 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Just wondering if 5hp is over kill like buying a pick up truck or a semi both will Haul a board only difference is how often will I need the semi to transport a pallet of lumber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firehawk Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I have a Grizzly with a 3 hp and really like. There is on occasion that the extra hp would have been helpful. It would also have added to the safety of the saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I have a 5 hp UniSaw and have never managed to bog it down , especially cutting thick stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckkisser Posted January 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Please correctly me if I'm wrong, for $70 you get a built in router table and a 5 hp motor. Sounds like a no brainer! Does anyone see a downside to the RLWX? The difference is 120 dollars but Ya that isent that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckkisser Posted January 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I have a Grizzly with a 3 hp and really like. There is on occasion that the extra hp would have been helpful. It would also have added to the safety of the saw. Mark have you had any problems with the riving knife? The craftsman we have at work is difficult to keep the riving knife aligned I have to adjust all the time. Also there is not a lot of room for my hand when I'm adjusting the blade or a bolts on the riving knife. Does it seem like the grizzly has similar problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I have the 715P Duck and the riving knife is spot on and super easy to get to. I'm only assuming they used the same set up on the 1023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggers Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I have a 12" 5 H.P. Grizzly saw. I guess I've had it for almost 7 years now and have really worked it hard. The only problem I've had with it is I recently had to replace the on/off power switch. The only safely feature I use on my saw is the riving knife. I've never had to adjust it. It's easy on and easy off when I have to remove it - like when I'm using my dado blades. One thing that I have no knowledge of is if they have chanded the design of the riving knife and how it attaches. I can't help you there. A simple phone call to Grizzly can answer that for you. The saw has never bogged down and has cut everything I've pushed through it with ease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckkisser Posted January 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Tiods They look like the same machine. How is a 5hp machine safer? Less force you have to push on to the machine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Personally, I don't think one is "safer" than the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckkisser Posted January 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Well I'm sold on a 5hp now I just need to figure out how to get it to my garage at the end of a dead end street down an alley. Doubt a semi can get down it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmaichel Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Here is the biggest difference that I see. The 5 HP saw is going to have to run off of a 30A breaker and the 3 HP saw will run off a 20A breaker and actually only needs a 15A breaker because the maximum draw is only 14 amps. Not sure if your running a dedicated panel for your shop or just off the house panel. I personally would not want to have a 30A breaker when I could run a saw that is just as good off a 20A breaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotscott Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Those are both a great bang for the buck IMO. Having a wider extension is always nice even if you didn't use is as a router table....using as a router table has some benefits too. I don't recall ever bogging down my 3hp motor, so I'm not convinced 5hp is necessary, but if your circuit can deliver the extra amperage and the price is right, the extra power never hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firehawk Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Mark have you had any problems with the riving knife? The craftsman we have at work is difficult to keep the riving knife aligned I have to adjust all the time. Also there is not a lot of room for my hand when I'm adjusting the blade or a bolts on the riving knife. Does it seem like the grizzly has similar problems. Never had a problem with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckkisser Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Here is the biggest difference that I see. The 5 HP saw is going to have to run off of a 30A breaker and the 3 HP saw will run off a 20A breaker and actually only needs a 15A breaker because the maximum draw is only 14 amps. Not sure if your running a dedicated panel for your shop or just off the house panel. I personally would not want to have a 30A breaker when I could run a saw that is just as good off a 20A breaker. I have a dedicated box in the garage and I have 20 spaces in my box so I have plenty of room for a single 30 amp circuit. I know that for 90 percent of my cuts 3hp is enough its when I'm cuting a slab or I'm using my table saw to resawing something that's when I'm going to want that extra 5hp. If it was 500-1000 dollars more then I would not get the 5hp and make do with the 3hp but frankly 120 dollers is prity resonable for a much more powerful saw. Unless it's going to cost a small fortune to run the 5hp machine over the 3hp saw then I don't see any real reason to not buy it. Is there my real good reason not to get the5hp saw if someone can give me a good reason not to buy it then I won't get it and instead spend the extra 120 on something else like a air compressor. But like knots said the extra 2hp can't hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 when I'm cuting a slab or I'm using my table saw to resawing something that's when I'm going to want that extra 5hp That's what a bandsaw is for. But for an extra $120 it's a no-brainer...go for it...assuming they're not cutting corners somewhere else in the saw to make up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckkisser Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 I don't think so grizzly is a middle road company but haven't heard of them sacrificing to the extent they sell crapy machines like harbor freight they just use a cheap bolt or a non name brand motor ect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ResidentEvil Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Dont discount the usefulness of the router table in the extension wing. I have a dedicated router table, and would love to also have another in the wing of my TS. I'd probably put a medium sized cheap router in it and leave a roundover or rabbiting bit in it permanently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firehawk Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 The difference is 120 dollars but Ya that isent that much. My mistake, I didn't notice the higher shipping on the 5 hp model! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firehawk Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Tiods They look like the same machine. How is a 5hp machine safer? Less force you have to push on to the machine? Yes, I was referring to the once in a great while that I have bogged down my 3hp machine. Although its never caused an accident it sure is an uncomfortable feeling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 It may be because I cut most of my thicker stock on the bandsaw...but I don't ever remember bogging down my 3HP TS. A sharp quality blade and proper feed rate makes all the difference... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estesbubba Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 It may be because I cut most of my thicker stock on the bandsaw...but I don't ever remember bogging down my 3HP TS. A sharp quality blade and proper feed rate makes all the difference... And using a rip blade instead of combo for thicker stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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