shaneymack Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Same kind of guy goes to dunkin donuts with a sharpie and stealthily slips into the bathroom stall and draws a penis on the wall. What a rush of power! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Google "shaper." The confusion will be obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Google "shaper." The confusion will be obvious. Not with the wife around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I had to try a second time to be sure I spelled it right. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinF Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I don't think PB has a shaper, probably just a harbor freight router in an old counter top, not even an insert plate seriously though, some people take their hobby waaaay to serious! I know a lot of you guys do this for a living, but that's still overkill! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPCV_Woodworker Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I don't think PB has a shaper, probably just a harbor freight router in an old counter top, not even an insert plate seriously though, some people take their hobby waaaay to serious! I know a lot of you guys do this for a living, but that's still overkill! I dunno man, the first three tools in our shop were a table saw, shaper, and 735 lunchbox planer. Granted, we were making paneling for an addition to our house. I didn't even know we had a router table until three years later! That said, as soon as we're done renovating our kitchen I'm going to try and get my dad to sell the shaper, space hog... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I don't think PB has a shaper, probably just a harbor freight router in an old counter top, not even an insert plate seriously though, some people take their hobby waaaay to serious! I know a lot of you guys do this for a living, but that's still overkill! A shaper is in no way overkill. Granted with my profession its a must but even a hobby shop would benefit. Most that make these comments don't really understand the difference between a shaper and router table. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinF Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 A shaper is in no way overkill. Granted with my profession its a must but even a hobby shop would benefit. Most that make these comments don't really understand the difference between a shaper and router table. I didn't mean the shaper was overkill, I meant the dude who wrote the email, sorry. I honestly don't care if you make your tenons with a poorly trained monkey, it doesn't effect me... Unless your telling me I should get my own monkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechwood Chip Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I honestly don't care if you make your tenons with a poorly trained monkey, it doesn't effect me... Unless your telling me I should get my own monkey Most that make these comments don't really understand the benefits of monkeys. But get a good quality monkey; this is one area where you get what you pay for. A poorly trained monkey does more harm than good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan S Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Most that make these comments don't really understand the benefits of monkeys. But get a good quality monkey; this is one area where you get what you pay for. A poorly trained monkey does more harm than good. The best monkeys are a green or mustard color! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHoleInOne Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 When I get home from work, some nights, I spank my monkey....oh don't give me that look, you do it too -Ace- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinF Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 When I get home from work, some nights, I spank my monkey....oh don't give me that look, you do it too -Ace-lmfao! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinF Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Most that make these comments don't really understand the benefits of monkeys. But get a good quality monkey; this is one area where you get what you pay for. A poorly trained monkey does more harm than good.so the monkey is a better woodworker than I am, do you HAVE TO keep rubbing it in my face??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I think PB sent that mail to himself just to show off his beloved almighty shaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I think PB sent that mail to himself just to show off his beloved almighty shaper I can do that any time don't need drama. http://youtu.be/IWSUtVPxj6o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I can do that any time don't need drama. http://youtu.be/IWSUtVPxj6o Drama? Looks more like comedy to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinF Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I can do that any time don't need drama. http://youtu.be/IWSUtVPxj6ogreat, now I want a shaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgreenb Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 PB, a few questions. What shaper is that? Is that cutter adjustable in the sense that you can move the cutters up and down to dial in a specific tenon thickness? How much does a cutter like that cost? Are they custom made? Thanks, I know very little about shapers other than the bits and pieces I get from you on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pghmyn Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 You clearly are new to woodworking PB. Why was that edge not finished before starting the joinery? Kidding aside, that email was amazing to read. I love keyboard cowboys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 PB, a few questions. What shaper is that? Is that cutter adjustable in the sense that you can move the cutters up and down to dial in a specific tenon thickness? How much does a cutter like that cost? Are they custom made? Thanks, I know very little about shapers other than the bits and pieces I get from you on this forum. Powermatic shaper. No they are rebate cutters. $89 ea not custom. The cutters are just rebate cutter. Think of them as a rabbet cutter with scoring blades. They are adjusted by adding spacers between two cutters. Shaper cutters are stackable, so you combine cutters to get the desired results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 You clearly are new to woodworking PB. Why was that edge not finished before starting the joinery? The idea is to not duplicate any process. That board got a short tenon on each end and a groove in each side. You only need to face joint and joint one edge. Cutting the groove mills the unfinished edge and cutting the groove in the other side cuts the board to final width. A couple passes through the drum sander to finish off the board ready for hand sanding. No sense in taking the board all the way down to s4s and then milling the joinery, waist of time and effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgreenb Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 The idea is to not duplicate any process. That board got a short tenon on each end and a groove in each side. You only need to face joint and joint one edge. Cutting the groove mills the unfinished edge and cutting the groove in the other side cuts the board to final width. A couple passes through the drum sander to finish off the board ready for hand sanding. No sense in taking the board all the way down to s4s and then milling the joinery, waist of time and effort.Very cool thinking about all these little efficiency tricks you develop when time is money.Question though - how do you cut a groove in an unfinished edge? What are you referencing from if the edge isn't straight? Does the power feeder take care of that somehow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Very cool thinking about all these little efficiency tricks you develop when time is money. Question though - how do you cut a groove in an unfinished edge? What are you referencing from if the edge isn't straight? Does the power feeder take care of that somehow? You run the stock between a fence and the cutter head so that your one jointed edge is against the fence. Its called a back fence, really just a scrap of plywood. This operation requires a power feeder. We only care about the net results. Just like cutting tenons. We don't care about tenon length we only care about the board length between the tenons on each end. For example a 22 1/2" roughly long board needing 20" between the tenons. Just set the tenon cutters to cut just over 1.25 just eyeball it. The fence stop is set to 20" When the board is turned to cut the second tenon there will be a net 20" between the two tenons. Now you have a perfect board with no set up just eyeballing the settings close. Go to the table saw and lop off your tenons which should be close to 1/4" to long each. No repeated steps, no tedious measuring or tenon lay out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgreenb Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 You run the stock between a fence and the cutter head so that your one jointed edge is against the fence. Its called a back fence, really just a scrap of plywood. This operation requires a power feeder.We only care about the net results. Just like cutting tenons. We don't care about tenon length we only care about the board length between the tenons on each end. For example a 22 1/2" roughly long board needing 20" between the tenons. Just set the tenon cutters to cut just over 1.25 just eyeball it. The fence stop is set to 20" When the board is turned to cut the second tenon there will be a net 20" between the two tenons. Now you have a perfect board with no set up just eyeballing the settings close. Go to the table saw and lop off your tenons which should be close to 1/4" to long each. No repeated steps, no tedious measuring or tenon lay out.Very cool. Thanks PB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pghmyn Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 The idea is to not duplicate any process. That board got a short tenon on each end and a groove in each side. You only need to face joint and joint one edge. Cutting the groove mills the unfinished edge and cutting the groove in the other side cuts the board to final width. A couple passes through the drum sander to finish off the board ready for hand sanding. No sense in taking the board all the way down to s4s and then milling the joinery, waist of time and effort.Hey now, I know better than to question your methods. I was trying to be jovial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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