mrrhode04 Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 I have been trying to find a new jointer and ran across this today. What do you guys think? http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/tls/4960983285.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 If I was in the market and lived in the area, I would defiantly go check it out . It looks pretty clean in the photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkrusen Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 I have one and its a nice jointer. At that price point you're getting close to dealing with the whole 6" vs 8" debate. But I've been very happy with mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim0625 Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 THAT'S......a steal. Rule is about half the price of new for used but that machine is new. I'd offer him half but gladly pay what he's asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjeff70 Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 People will pay for older, used equipment but I'd ask him if he'd take $500 since there's no warranty...it is under-used but 10 years old. There's no free shipping and your labor to move the machine costs money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 If I needed another 6" jointer, I'd buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarlywoodguy Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 It's a buy. Haggling allowed Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrhode04 Posted April 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 So would anybody be worried about the fact that it pretty much has been sitting for 10 years. Would the bearings still be good? Anything else to look at? edit: I guess it doesn't say it has been sitting but it has less than 1 hour of use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotscott Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 My view goes a bit against the grain on this one. $650 for a used 15 year old 6" Taiwanese jointer with no warranty is a bit steep IMO. It is in nice shape, and I'm sure it's a good machine if it checks out, but I wouldn't pay the premium for the nameplate or color in this case. It's just too similar to the Grizzly, Jet, Bridgewood, Sunhill, and Woodtek of the same era, that all came from the same Geetech factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrhode04 Posted April 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 I do not disagree with it being very similar to other ones that were made in the same era, but I am not asking if I should choose one of the four that are shown above. There isn't four different ones on Craigslist that I can choose from. I am simply asking if this one jointer would be a good deal or should I wait to see if something else comes up. These are the only other ones posted in my area in the last week: http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/csw/tls/4961361047.html http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/csw/tls/4960550812.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjeff70 Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 I think Scott was just making a point that it's a Taiwanese machine so don't let the PM make you think it's worth more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrhode04 Posted April 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 I understand what he is saying, I am simply asking if people think it could be worth a consideration. I am in the market for a new jointer because the one that my grandpa gave me doesn't work right. This will be the first jointer I buy and I want to one that will last a good amount of years. I not really fall in to the brand thing, I want something that is worth the money and will last a while. Half of my shop is super old Shop Master tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 I think it's definitely worth consideration. Looks very clean. See if the mobile base is included, and bring a straightedge to see if each table is flat, and how coplanar the tables are. That's a dovetail-way design, and if the tables are out of alignment it can be tough to adjust. Ask to run some boards over it - assume you'll need to sharpen the knives, but look for smooth motor, no vibration, etc. As for the price - sounds like you're doing your homework on what's out there, and what your budget is. I'm not one for haggling but I'd explain that a 15 year old machine with no warranty does bring the price down a little. 650 looks a little higher than what some 54's are listed for on CL, but this one looks a lot cleaner and if a mobile base is of use to you, consider that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrhode04 Posted April 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Thank you John. I asked him in a email and the mobile base is not included and the knives are still good according to him, he is also firm on the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 if you don't "need" the mobile base, then meh. As for the unit - if it's close, can't hurt to check it out. I'm sure the PM is a great machine, but just keep in mind that you can get a brand new Grizzly for less (http://www.grizzly.com/products/6-x-46-Jointer-with-Mobile-Base-Polar-Bear-Series/G0452P). I'd say go check it out and then only you can decide if it's right for you. Hope you have a a way to transport it. If budget is not an issue, give me time and I'll talk you up to an 8" jointer with segmented head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrhode04 Posted April 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 I am open to suggestions, I would love a 8" but with having to pay for a wedding this year I don't think I should pay that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Sounds like it fits your needs then. Go check it out, and give us a report afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotscott Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 I do not disagree with it being very similar to other ones that were made in the same era, but I am not asking if I should choose one of the four that are shown above. There isn't four different ones on Craigslist that I can choose from. I am simply asking if this one jointer would be a good deal or should I wait to see if something else comes up. These are the only other ones posted in my area in the last week: http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/csw/tls/4961361047.html http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/csw/tls/4960550812.html It wasn't my intention that you choose one of the 4 machines I showed...those were just examples of very similar machines that sell for much less than the PM, which supports my view that this PM54 is priced too high. Powermatic makes some great machines, some of which can be worth a premium...the condition is worth some extra, but I'm not seeing $650 value in this particular case. It is worth considering if a 6" jointer suits your needs, but I'd be at $400-$500 tops for that PM54. The Ridgid you linked to is also overpriced @ $400 IMO, but is also reasonably similar to the PM, and would be a nice bargain at closer to $300. For $650, I'd be looking for a new Grizzly, or a used 8"...I'd consider making a $450-$500 offer on this Dayton, which has a very similar design as the others that rolled out of the Geetech factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrhode04 Posted April 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Thanks Scott that is what I was looking for was some input on if it is a good deal or not. I have zero experience on buying a used jointer. I wonder if that Dayton is still available it was post 2 months ago. It seems that a lot of folks don't think that jointer is worth the asking price. If I was going to look in to a Grizzly (which I have thought about) what would be a good recommendation? I know a lot of people say 8" is better and get a parallelogram. If you couldn't have both options which would you choose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotscott Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 It's a preference thing really...everyone's different. More capacity is my preference if I had the space. Parallelogram is a more elegant design IMO, but I would choose an 8" dovetail design over a 6" parallelogram if my budget didn't allow for an 8" parallelogram jointer. 6" works out fine most of the time, but there are a lot of rough sawn boards that fall between 6" and 8". Grizzly just happens to have a nifty video on their jointers. http://www.grizzly.com/products/6-x-46-Jointer/G0654 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 did you look at the jointer in the belt sander ad from Minneapolis? If cheap is important, the guy has a belt sander and a jointer for 300, and it's negotiable. If I needed a jointer, I'd buy that PM and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrhode04 Posted April 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Well the cheapest isn't a requirement but something that is around $800 would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim0625 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Tom said he'd buy it and he's been doing this stuff ....well.....let's say it like this....he helped Noah with the ark. On that basis....BUY THE THING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrhode04 Posted April 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Ok I know we went around in circle about this already but funny thing is this just came up in my area. I think this would be a better deal, what do you think? https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/tls/4986086092.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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