Immortan D Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'm considering getting a miter saw and been trying to decide between these two models: Bosch GCM12SD or DeWalt DWS780 Not considering Festool because it's way over my budget. The axial guide system on the Bosch looks good, saves space, but I don't know if it's reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted April 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 If anyone can help me make a choice I'll appreciate it. Maybe a former owner of a similar saw. I never owned a miter saw before. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 My suggestion would be the Bosch GCM12SD. I considered this saw when looking at them. It was between that and the Kapex. I chose the latter because I enjoy the flavor of the green Kool-Aid, and the smaller footprint was highly desirable for me. I think the Bosch is a better made machine than the Dewalt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenskye Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 I have the 12" hitachi and really like it. It can sit closer to a wall than the dewalt, because of the ability to slide forward. I put a good blade on, and it cuts perfect for me. Plus the price at $399 is hard to beat in my opinion. If money was no object for me, I would have the Kapex. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 I had an older version of the Dewalt for several years, and it was a decent saw. I replaced it (no fault of the saw, long story) with the Bosch. I have had it for little over 2 years. I looked at the Kapex but just couldn't open my wallet that much. The Bosch has been outstanding. It is different from most sliders and takes a little getting used to but I haven't regretted the decision once. I have used it almost daily for the last year without a single hiccup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted April 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjeff70 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 You could try Dewalt's DWS782R 12 in. Dual Bevel Sliding Compound Miter Saw for $400. It's reconditioned but you get the same warranty. I bought the reconditioned Dewalt model you listed above 11 years ago and it still works great today. I believe they're mainly scratch and dent made new again by Dewalt because they arrive 'certified reconditioned'. http://www.amazon.com/Factory-Reconditioned-Dewalt-DWS782R-Sliding-Compound/dp/B00TRPQQMA/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1429280408&sr=8-5&keywords=reconditioned+dewalt Ships from CPO but backed by Amazon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarlywoodguy Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Kapex. Nuf said Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithP Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 I have the 10" version of the Bosch saw. It is a very nice, accurate piece of equipment. I haven't used the Dewalt saw you mention so can't give you a direct comparison though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted June 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 About to pull the trigger on the Bosch. Last question: how noisy this tool is when compared to other miter saws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 About to pull the trigger on the Bosch. Last question: how noisy this tool is when compared to other miter saws? No more, no less, enjoy your new saw! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Noise levels are probably very similar. I had the Dewalt for many years and really liked it.. I only recently upgraded to the Kapex. In the end, I don't think you can go wrong with any of the saws listed above. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Hey daniel, i had a 10" bosch slider for 9 years. Served me well and was a great machine. I also have a 12" dewalt chop saw, it is also a great machine. Before i bought the kapex i was looking at the bosch glider as well. I dont have experience with it but it looks awesome. I ended up getting the kapex cause im a sucker for green koolaid.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted June 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Thanks again to you all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanis Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 I have the 10" Bosch sliding mitre for about 10 years and used it a LOT for a hobbyist. Although I have been really happy with it once I started to try to cut accurate mitres I found that the fence was bent and I had to do some minor engineering on it to get it square. It could have gone horribly wrong (I used a lathe bed and clamps to "adjust it") it came up to within a fraction of a mm with some not so gentle persuasion. My only advice would be to take a straight edge and square with you and check for flatness and square before you buy. John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 No experience with the Bosch but it can't be any worse than the Dewalt I use for DIY. That thing is a mess. I'd go Bosch or Makita. Miter saws are loud. My Kapex might be the loudest tool in my shop. That or the PC7518 in my RT. The Kapex is louder than other SCMS but they're all loud. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted June 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 My only advice would be to take a straight edge and square with you and check for flatness and square before you buy. John I will do that, thanks John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted June 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 My Kapex might be the loudest tool in my shop. That or the PC7518 in my RT. The Kapex is louder than other SCMS but they're all loud. At least the Kapex is good at dust collection. The video on this page makes me not want the Bosch! It seems to be by far the worst SCMS ever when it comes to dust collection. I guess I will have to build a dust collection frame for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Compared to the Dewalt I replaced, the Bosch was leaps and bounds better. But when I was able to find a permanent home for the saw and set up with a vac I was not pleased with the amount of dust left behind. I did a little research, watched a couple of Kapex videos and realized that one major difference was that the rubber flap on the dc intake extended to the work piece. I took the flap off my tile saw and riveted it to the Bosch and that simple fix solved 95% of the problem. In the second picture, (it is kind of hard to see) there is a gap between the intake and guard pivot. Sawdust escapes through this gap. I just need to cover that gap and I think I will the dc problem mostly solved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted June 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Compared to the Dewalt I replaced, the Bosch was leaps and bounds better. But when I was able to find a permanent home for the saw and set up with a vac I was not pleased with the amount of dust left behind. I did a little research, watched a couple of Kapex videos and realized that one major difference was that the rubber flap on the dc intake extended to the work piece. I took the flap off my tile saw and riveted it to the Bosch and that simple fix solved 95% of the problem. Saw1.JPG In the second picture, (it is kind of hard to see) there is a gap between the intake and guard pivot. Sawdust escapes through this gap. I just need to cover that gap and I think I will the dc problem mostly solved. saw2.JPG Excellent info, Bob! Thanks for sharing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted June 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 New family member! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Congratulations! Enjoy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted June 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2015 Thanks. I made my first cuts yesterday, rock solid piece of hardware this saw is. I'm very satisfied so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N00b-in-training Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Resurrecting this topic... I was in the Big Orange Store this morning and they have a "limited" release of the DWS780 for $399! It appears they only difference is the removal of the XPS light. I had been planning to buy the Bosch when budget allowed but at $200 less the Dewalt is really appealing! Any fatal flaws on the 780 that would make you run away? My primary use is rough cutting long stock and then cutting stock that is too big for my table saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janello Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 1 hour ago, N00b-in-training said: Resurrecting this topic... I was in the Big Orange Store this morning and they have a "limited" release of the DWS780 for $399! It appears they only difference is the removal of the XPS light. I had been planning to buy the Bosch when budget allowed but at $200 less the Dewalt is really appealing! Any fatal flaws on the 780 that would make you run away? My primary use is rough cutting long stock and then cutting stock that is too big for my table saw. It's not a bad saw, and would do the job you're asking of it. It does take up a lot of space, it's heavy, and the slide isn't super smooth. The 10" DW717 is smaller, lighter, slides better and has better dust collection and it's about the same price as the 708 on sale with the sacrifice of some capacity. In a hobby shop setting that extra capacity won't be needed often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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