Eric. Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I still refuse to call it a bench but that is one bad ass "work area." I wish I had the space for one because after using the scrawny little MFT for less than a year I can say for sure I'd copy your plans and build one just like it. It's awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwk5017 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, Eric. said: I still refuse to call it a bench but that is one bad ass "work area." I wish I had the space for one because after using the scrawny little MFT for less than a year I can say for sure I'd copy your plans and build one just like it. It's awesome. Agreed. I just dont know how comfortable I would be hammering on something held in place by the festool quick clamps. They are around $300 a piece, and i am an ape when holding a mallet. Shane does awesome work, so i wont question his judgement on a work bench, but the classic hardware and design is hard to beat for a work bench. However, what shane has made is a stellar replacement for the MFT. I view the MFT differently than a workbench. I have both and i use them for drastically different operations. At the next workspace, Shane's workbench is the absolute replacement for the MFT. It takes everything that makes the MFT great, but improves on it 100 fold. My MFT isnt the most stable thing in the world. I gingerly place things on it to cut. Then, you get into workpiece support and cut capacity. 26-27" cut capacity isnt that much. It also isnt that long to support 7-8' lengths. Shane looks like he addressed all these things in his. With how easy it is to have a top CNC'd to near perfect accuracy, these worktops are awesome. A few track lengths with some qwas dogs/rail dogs and you have an awesome tool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlmorgan999 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 1 hour ago, shaneymack said: Here is a less expensive option to drill your own mft top. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Thanks for the pointer Shane! I've always found Peter's videos helpful (I first discovered him in the context of the X-Carve) so I'm happy to support him. The manufacturer is out of stock right now, but I'll keep watching (ideally, I'd like to find someone in the US who carries it, but I haven't seen that yet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted September 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I still refuse to call it a bench but that is one bad ass "work area." I wish I had the space for one because after using the scrawny little MFT for less than a year I can say for sure I'd copy your plans and build one just like it. It's awesome. Not that I care what you call it but what is it lacking for you to call it a bench? A vise? Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, shaneymack said: Not that I care what you call it but what is it lacking for you to call it a bench? A vise? Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk I think it's a bench. Just not a traditional one. That said, some authors advise against innovation when it comes to benches. This is one of the "principles" for building workbenches according to Schwarz (he's quoting himself): 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I will be glad to call it anything you like. Its very nice addition to your shop Shane. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 1 hour ago, shaneymack said: Not that I care what you call it but what is it lacking for you to call it a bench? A vise? Yes. Two, actually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlmorgan999 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 1 hour ago, dlmorgan999 said: The manufacturer is out of stock right now, but I'll keep watching (ideally, I'd like to find someone in the US who carries it, but I haven't seen that yet). I just found out that this won't be back in stock until mid-November. I guess that just gives me plenty of time to work up a design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted September 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I just found out that this won't be back in stock until mid-November. I guess that just gives me plenty of time to work up a design. There's always the LR 32 . Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochese Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Missed this before, it's a very nice build. The part about adding more systainers struck me as funny because I need to build something new for the same reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenskye Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I just found out that this won't be back in stock until mid-November. I guess that just gives me plenty of time to work up a design. There is a version that uses pegboard and is cheaper than both the Parf and LR32. It is made by a guy named Anthony, and if I remember correctly, it is called the Woodrave or something. If you want check out YouTube and put Anthony Zeh in a search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwk5017 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 There is a version that uses pegboard and is cheaper than both the Parf and LR32. It is made by a guy named Anthony, and if I remember correctly, it is called the Woodrave or something. If you want check out YouTube and put Anthony Zeh in a search. Theres also your local shop with a CNC, makerspace, etc that will happily cut a full 4x8 sheet of whatever material you want to your specs. Ive seen plenty of people posting $75-100 an hour to do it. Add in the cost of your material, and you have your top completed. Pegboard might be accurate, but is it thousandths of an inch accurate? This is where I start to question making your own tools. If you mess up the dog grid of Shane's top, the whole thing just plain sucks to me. You would go from having dead on 45° and 90° cuts without breaking a sweat to everything being off a bit. I would borrow a buddy's MFT top to replicate with a template bit, CNC the top, or go the route of the LR32. First choice would be to bite the bullet and get it CNCed to perfection in whatever size and spec you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted September 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Theres also your local shop with a CNC, makerspace, etc that will happily cut a full 4x8 sheet of whatever material you want to your specs. Ive seen plenty of people posting $75-100 an hour to do it. Add in the cost of your material, and you have your top completed. Pegboard might be accurate, but is it thousandths of an inch accurate? This is where I start to question making your own tools. If you mess up the dog grid of Shane's top, the whole thing just plain sucks to me. You would go from having dead on 45° and 90° cuts without breaking a sweat to everything being off a bit. I would borrow a buddy's MFT top to replicate with a template bit, CNC the top, or go the route of the LR32. First choice would be to bite the bullet and get it CNCed to perfection in whatever size and spec you want. I just reconnected with a buddy from carpentry school. We went over to his house for dinner last week and he took me over to his shop. 20 000 sq ft, not too bad. He has a very, very succesful archetectual millwork company. All to say that he has a heck of a cnc. 5'×10' material capacity. 8 head spindle This is the vacuum to provide suction for the material being machined. Its enormous Safe to say, all my future mft tops will be done right there for the price of 0$. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlmorgan999 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 holy crap, that's a hell of a machine.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwk5017 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Yeah, that is just plain awesome. For those of us without 20,000SF buddies, I would still suggest going the route of having the top CNCed for a fee. Funny how he has a $50,000 CNC machine with a $100 dust collector hooked up to it. That man has his priorities in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estesbubba Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 With a 20,000 SF shop we need a picture of his Wall of Systainer Fame! Eric might even use it as his wallpaper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I have some already...enough anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlmorgan999 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Eric. said: I have some already...enough anyway. That's a nice clean looking shop Eric! I wish mine looked that nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Yeah, that is just plain awesome. For those of us without 20,000SF buddies, I would still suggest going the route of having the top CNCed for a fee. Funny how he has a $50,000 CNC machine with a $100 dust collector hooked up to it. That man has his priorities in order. I think it was 150k. He is buying a multi stage edge bander that is 27' long and over 100k. I will take a few pics when he gets it. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwk5017 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 17 hours ago, shaneymack said: I think it was 150k. He is buying a multi stage edge bander that is 27' long and over 100k. I will take a few pics when he gets it. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk yeah yeah, thats what i said, "$50,000 American Dollars", thats 150k canuck bucks, right? i keed, i keed. Honestly, my knowledge of the CNC and edge banding market is limited to what i see at auctions. I know they go from expensive to very expensive to holy #@!$ expensive. Seems your friend is in the last of those categories. This might sound dumb, but if hes running a millwork shop, why has he dedicated close to 300k towards sheet good processing? Maybe im misunderstanding stuff, but i always classified millwork as doors, casing, trim, base, moulding, corbels-- that sort of thing. Still, must be doing crazy business to have that much cap expenditure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 yeah yeah, thats what i said, "$50,000 American Dollars", thats 150k canuck bucks, right? i keed, i keed. Honestly, my knowledge of the CNC and edge banding market is limited to what i see at auctions. I know they go from expensive to very expensive to holy #@!$ expensive. Seems your friend is in the last of those categories. This might sound dumb, but if hes running a millwork shop, why has he dedicated close to 300k towards sheet good processing? Maybe im misunderstanding stuff, but i always classified millwork as doors, casing, trim, base, moulding, corbels-- that sort of thing. Still, must be doing crazy business to have that much cap expenditure. Most of what they do involves sheet goods/cabinetry. They build trade show booths and also do architectural millwork. Here's his site, pretty cool stuff http://www.presentex.com Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marmotjr Posted May 9, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Sorry to bump the thread, but it was linked in another post ;). That's nice work shane, I like it! As mentioned, If I was to do it, I would have added air passages between each section, and then a DC/shop vac port on the side of the box. That way it would serve triple duty. You could get the dust of the box, and it will double as a vacuum hold down table. And if you reverse the air flow, air hockey table. Can't believe a Canuck didn't instinctively add the hockey option. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 @shaneymack I remember looking at this back in the day .. didn't think it was for me. Now I think it's totally for me. Now that I've made the decision to have my workbench be my outfeed table and assembly table to save room. So.. mind if I basically steal it? Only difference is I am going to find a cnc shop to do the holes in the top 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 @shaneymack I remember looking at this back in the day .. didn't think it was for me. Now I think it's totally for me. Now that I've made the decision to have my workbench be my outfeed table and assembly table to save room. So.. mind if I basically steal it? Only difference is I am going to find a cnc shop to do the holes in the top Steal away ! Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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