shaneymack Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 While working in the shop yesterday i noticed that the formica on the top of my outfeed/assembly table has delaminated and has popped up. Have any of you dealt with this, if so how?I was thinking of drilling two holes and injecting some epoxy and clamping some bow clamps across the top for good pressure. I would prefer to not have to drill through the formica but it would be the only solution i can think of, unless maybe the contact cement can be re activated with heat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Solvent squirted from the edge, I use a glue bottle (clean new one). Tease the edge open w a slim putty knife. Lacquer thinner should work . Prop it open and let dry. Recoat with contact cement, let that dry, pull props and use a roller to apply pressure . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Solvent squirted from the edge, I use a glue bottle (clean new one). Tease the edge open w a slim putty knife. Lacquer thinner should work . Prop it open and let dry. Recoat with contact cement, let that dry, pull props and use a roller to apply pressure . The problem is that the delamination is in the center of the table. The edges are intact. It is about 24" in from the edge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Maybe heat it with an iron & press it back down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I was thinking that as well. Just not sure if it would totally screw up the formica. Not sure how resistant to heat it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochese Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Drilling and injecting would be the easy way, for sure. Drill the smallest holes you can inject into, and run the roller over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Just peel from one edge to the center, flooding w solvent. Heat might work but big chance of scorching the surface before its hot enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I was thinking that as well. Just not sure if it would totally screw up the formica. Not sure how resistant to heat it isNot very. What type of contact cement did you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Not very. What type of contact cement did you use? Pretty sure it was lepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I tried water based once. After throwing the laminate away, I've stuck with the old highly stinky solvent based contact cement, and never had the first piece come loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 The one i used was definitely solvent based. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Z. Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Drill from the bottom (watch your depth)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Drill from the bottom (watch your depth)? Thats not an option due to the table being a torsion box.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 What comes to my mind: consider adding a couple of t-tracks to your table. They may come in handy for hold-down clamps and since you will have to route a dado for the t-track, you will have a chance at fixing the formica problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 What comes to my mind: consider adding a couple of t-tracks to your table. They may come in handy for hold-down clamps and since you will have to route a dado for the t-track, you will have a chance at fixing the formica problem. That is a good option Daniel, i will give it some thought. Although with the workbench im currently building im not sure the extra t tracks will only be redundant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I see. Other option would be extending your table saw miter slots to the outfeed table. It's a common practice and will also help with your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I see. Other option would be extending your table saw miter slots to the outfeed table. It's a common practice and will also help with your problem. They are extended. Unfortunately the section that failed is not close to the slots that i routed. Im thinking the only feasable option other than redoing the entire top is drilling some holes and injecting epoxy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I would post some pics but i think it would be hard to see the section in question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collinb Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 If it has delaminated in the center and has any sort of bubble then it may have changed shape. It may not be possible to repair it properly, or, as the discussions indicate, not easily. Might be worth considering the alternative: Take it off and replace it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 If it has delaminated in the center and has any sort of bubble then it may have changed shape. It may not be possible to repair it properly, or, as the discussions indicate, not easily. Might be worth considering the alternative: Take it off and replace it. You might be correct. I think i have nothing to lose at this point by trying to fix it. It might not be perfect but it would save me from wasting time working on an outfeed table that otherwise could be spent woodworking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Ok. Another idea to consider: Insert an insert plate for a Kreg hold down clamp in the affected area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I doubt epoxy would stick to the film of contact cement that will be on both surfaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I doubt epoxy would stick to the film of contact cement that will be on both surfaces. Maybe i will try CA Glue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PlaneAndDestroy Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 I use a lot of laminate in my business, and I've peeled it off of a lot of stuff. Acetone, dribbled in the gap will dissolve solvent based glue, and a heat gun pointed in the gap will soften the glue. Lift it up and use a utility knife to slice the glue as you apply pressure lifting it up. Don't try to wedge in a bondo knife or anything, or it'll just ball up the glue and make re-application difficult. I don't think you'll have success drilling a hole and adding glue, At least not long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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