sophia Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Whether it is built or buys, the baby crib should be comfortable, durable and the most important is their safeness. The rib is really your baby’s safe haven therefore it must be the most secure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryandetzel Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 I would like this thread to continue because i've been thinking of building the crib when our first arrives. I started this thread thinking I was going to build it and I ended the thread thinking I was going to buy it but then I read up on the regulations and now I think I want to build it again because even though I'm not an expert wood working I'm sure I can do a better job than the people in China. The regulations are pretty basic so following them is not hard and as long as the joints are nice and sound I see no concerns about safety at least I'll know how it's built and I'll be sure it's up to code. I would like some additional opinions on this though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Just buy one. This one looks real nice and doubles as a table. Little sucker wont escape. http://ak1.ostkcdn.com/images/products/P13808180.jpg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryandetzel Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Just buy one. This one looks real nice and doubles as a table. Little sucker wont escape. http://ak1.ostkcdn.c...s/P13808180.jpg That's clever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatworks Today Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 I built mine after looking (scouring) over all the reviews, regulations, etc. It wasn't a money issue for me (cause I didn't have any ) I guess it boiled down to sentiment. Our property is mature hardwoods and the Winter before we found out we were expecting, a HUGE yellow birch blew down in a storm. The main trunk was straight as an arrow, and probably 22" diameter. The upper trunks were still 12" diameter so there was A LOT of lumber laying there.. Loaded it into the truck with a tractor and hauled it down to the local mill. A year later, my daughter is sleeping in a crib that was built from that tree.. Call me a softy, but I don't know that many people can give that same story to their children when they're older Kinda cool IMO.. Ended up going with a fold-down style for a couple of reasons. Getting them in / out when they're tiny meant not really having to bend over to clear the top railing. Safety wise it seemed the most secure (really no moving pieces that could slide down and hurt them). Mama gave me some print outs of a few cribs that she liked telling me what she liked / didn't like and I tried my best to incorporate them into the design. The mattress hardware is such that the mattress is able to be lowered as they grow (takes about 5 minutes). Everything was mortise / tenon for the slats. The only plywood is on the ends. Because of formaldehyde issues found a company that uses soy glue for their laminates so zero issue there. Cost wise, it was probably a little cheaper than buying a cheap(er) one. My wife wanted an 'organic' mattress, sheets, etc. When I saw the price tag for the mattress I almost fell over! But, she was able to get it on a Black Friday and it ended up being $100 cheaper. I want to say that between the mattress, hardware, bumper thing for the inside, sheets, skirt, etc it was around $500 (I only had $20 into the milling of the lumber so that was a huge savings!) That being said (I may be a little partial here) I have no doubt that it's much better quality than anything we could have ever afforded to buy, and I am sure it will be handed down for my grandkids to sleep in... If you have the time, I'd say to do it; but do your homework. I think I had roughly 100 hours into mine, but there was quite a bit of detail and figuring out with the design. Here's a few pics of how it turned out. I've since pulled the wheels off the legs (didn't like them).. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombarde16 Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 The mattress hardware is such that the mattress is able to be lowered as they grow (takes about 5 minutes). It takes about five minutes to lower the mattress or it takes about five minutes for them to grow? The answer, of course, is all of the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMadson Custom Wood Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 There's few purchases that have a bigger impact on your child's safety than the crib. I know the chances of something going wrong are small, but the risk is not worth it to me. Would you make a car seat for your baby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatworks Today Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 I can see your point, but if the research is done and the crib is built to the safety specs (or exceeds them) that all the other manufacturers are adhering to I do not see any difference. At least this way I KNOW every aspect of the construction and materials used; store bought ones.. Who really knows for sure? Just look at the number of safety recalls every month on the things people buy that are "supposed" to be safe.. I'll take my chances and trust my judgement. For the crib I looked at strength requirements, finishing safety, formaldehyde issues (gassing off), spacing, hardware selection and design considerations.. Obsessively researched for more than 2 months and when it was all said and done, I feel that I actually exceeded the requirements and standards of the "commercial" manufacturers. Unless a person is willing to do this (to this extent) I would not recommend it. But, like I said as long as you do your homework, I do not feel that a hand crafted crib is any less safe.. As far as the car seat example I think that's like comparing apples to oranges. There are A LOT more considerations to take in for that scenario.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbaran Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 I built mine after looking (scouring) over all the reviews, regulations, etc... This is a really nice looking crib that you've built! Congratulations on the crib and what goes in it. It sounds like this is your design, correct? Could you post some dimensions, especially ones that relate to safety such as rail spacing? I'm interested in using this as a starting point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatworks Today Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 Hey Redbaran, you bet As soon as the Holidays are over I'll work on putting together (and finding) my notes. Should be able to get some info to you this coming week. Would this be for a little one you have on the way, or as a gift? Either way, Congrats! Happy Holidays! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavinNorton Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 I say absolutely build your own. I built this for my daughter 2 years ago and would not have it any other way. It'll be with us and her for generations to come. https://plus.google....=CKW43dvsxMCrBA Many, many....many mortise and tenon joints. Converts to a double bed and followed all of the safety guidelines that new baby beds are built to. Solid as a rock and a lot of walnut to boot. About 5 coats of a BLO, poly, danish oil mix and a month to cure before she slept in it. I am not worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdale51@yahoo.com Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 I just finished building a crib for my daughters first born. I did quite a bit of research on the subject beforehand. I'll say this much, to date it was the most complicated project I've ever done! Somewhere in the neighborhood of 108 mortise and tenon joints! I built what is basically Rockler's 3in1 but I found adapted plans at www.provenwoodworking.com Jim there was extremely helpful and answered any questions I had along the way, usually within 24 hours. The best part is included in his plans is a life saver of a jig to make each of the 52 slats identical. After all is said and done I think it came out pretty darn nice and I have no doubts my granddaughter will be safe and sound in it. I'll post pictures as soon as my daughter gets the crib. It's just not fair for y'all to see it while she's still waiting for it to arrive . Take your time, lay it out correctly and assemble it with precision and a hand made crib will be just as safe, and last many times longer (IMO) than something shipped in from China made from MDF and slathered in lead based paint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boatworks Today Posted January 9, 2012 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 OK, finally got through the Holidays and am able to get back to this thread.. I think the best thing to do since there is A LOT of info to scour through is to post links to some of the resources I found most informative for both information and hardware (as well as some pics of how I built mine). I want to stress upfront that I am not claiming to be an expert on cribs, but rather someone who did a lot of research, and the resulting crib is my interpretation of the information I read Inside dimensions for cribs have a set size for standard mattresses that went into effect in Dec 2010. Best place to get all the info is though the Consumer Product Safety Commission http://www.cpsc.gov/ Search for baby crib and get ready to read for the next week Most of the info seemed like common sense stuff to me, but it's still important to read. These sites gives a summary on some of the basics and The best place (and really the only place I found for the hardware I needed) was through Products America I bought the mattress springs and gate latches from here.. The brass hinges I got locally (I wanted to be able to hold and feel the hinges to make sure they weren't cheap crap). Depending on the style of crib you decide to go with, one consideration to keep in mind is to make sure the hinge base does not protrude beyond the wood (i.e. the wood railing needs to be thicker than the length of the hinge foot so no sharp edge can be touched) The top of my crib has an arch that runs lengthwise on the front and back rails. Overall height on the ends was 43.5" and the center or peak height was 44.75" The width of the cap rails are 1.75" for the front and 3.25" for the sides and back. All thickness was .75" Slats were 1.75" wide x 3/8" thick with 1/4" M&T and spaced every 2". Regulations limit a max spacing of 2 3/8" (less was fine). All edges are rounded over The gate latch is a heavy spring loaded thing on opposite ends of the crib. I believe requirements are a minimum of 10 lbs of presure open each latch. I also made sure the folding gate seated into a notch when it was closed. This prevents the gate from being able to be pulled in. Pulling from the outside, the latches were strong enough for me to pull the entire crib over without releasing or failing (maybe 50-60 pounds of force?) For the folding section of the crib, I determined that point to be roughly 30.25" fron the floor. When the mattress height is all the way up and the top gate is folded down this left roughly 16" above the mattress (only when she was a newborn and not able to move / roll or crawl.) Easy height to get them in and out without having to bend over too much. With the mattress lowered all the way and the gate up, the top railing is roughly 30". She's able to stand on her tippy-toes and the railing is about eye height. Once she's able to pull her first chin-up, then it's time to switch to a toddler bed. I was able to stand in the crib and it supported my weight; so I have no concerns about her jumping up and down with the risk of something breaking. All the slats were M&T, and end panels were glued and screwed with stainless #10 screws. I didn't design this crib to be converted to anything else (like a 3 in 1 as they grow). We're probably going to be having another young one within the year, so the crib will still be in use and I'll have to make a toddler bed. Not a bad deal IMO More time in the shop! I used 1/2" Pure Bond Plywood form Home Depot for the sides. Formaldehyde is an issue with commmon glues used in plywood and the pure bond is made with soy glue (no issues with gassing off). The stain and finish was by Crystalac (water based) that is certified safe to use for toys and childrens furniture. There are other brands avail; this is just what I'm familiar with and like the way it sprays. It's made in the USA so I felt that there wasn't going to be any "Grey" area on it's safety certifications. Even still, after the final coat of finish I let it cure in the shop for 2 weeks before bringing it home... UPDATE: One thing we found when she was getting more adventerous with her climbing is that the bumper pad that runs around the interior of the crib had to be folded back on the front (see 2nd pic of this post). She was able to stand on that and get her other leg up on the fold down hinged railing and stand straight up! She thought it was funny; we didn't! With the pad folded around the side that took care of that problem. We anticipated this as a possible issue when looking over the different crib designs. There is no "perfect design" and they all have their advantages and drawbacks. I intentionally set the height of the hinge where she would not be able to climb up once the bumper pad was removed. Just didn't think she would try climbing up as early as she did . So, once again I can't stress enough that anyone looking to do this REALLY do their homework! There is A LOT of info that I was not able to put in this post! But, hopefully it will provide a basic starting point. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbaran Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 OK, finally got through the Holidays and am able to get back to this thread.. Thanks a ton for posting your notes! I'm still not sure if I'm going to be able to make enough progress on my other projects, but with what I've seen so far, it's a very do-able project. The great thing about the internet is that your post will be a great resource. Thanks for taking the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verteramofurniture Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 boatworks. nice crib! im working on designing a crib for a future kid. i've been looking at the mattress hardware from america products. JW what size you ended up getting and what the inner dimensions of the crib came out to, I see online it says standard crib mattress size is 51 5/8 by 27 1/4. but the mattess' at babys r us are all different sizes. thx marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatworks Today Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Hey Marcus, thanks for the kind works The mattress that we went with was 52"x28.5" +/- an 1/8".. The mattress drops in and is a somewhat snug fit (but not tight)... MaMa's an organic girl, so we went with a natural (organic) mattress.. I don't remember where she ordered it from off hand, but could find out if interested... ~Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Spadaro Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Sorry for necroposting, but Google points you here as one of the top results for "DIY Crib". I kept seeing this thread when I was searching for ideas awhile ago. I thought I'd add my 2 cents for anyone else coming here through Google. I ended up making my crib out of solid ash, designing it using threaded inserts for the panels so that it could be taken apart for storage. I'm really happy with the result: http://did-it-myself.com/heirloom-diy-crib-part-1/ As mentioned though, fortunately the government has standardized crib slat spacing and mattress sizes, including the allowable tolerances for both, so it's pretty easy to design a solid, safe crib. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Welch Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 i am gonna build a crib, although this is my fourth child and i have never had this experience before, I am now in a position that i have the opportunity to do so, I got online and researched all the options and regulations, first if we where so worried about things of that nature we would not eat as all the chemicals they put on our food to preserve it are known to cause cancer, so it is what you wanna make of it, second the regulations are not that hard to follow, with my project i was disappointed when looking at materials at the store, I could not get what i wanted without special orders, I had a friend who has a complete wood working shop that is letting me build my crib in his shop, as for the materials he had some black walnut trees that where down and aged that i sent to a portable mill to have my lumber cut as i want, especially nice as i dont get treated lumber and all my wood is the same wood from start to finish, i wont have pieces of oak mixed with walnut, my crib will be made to disassemble and be stored, going this direction i am getting my lumber for a third of the cost of buying at the store, i will be able to build my crib for a third of the cost i can buy it for not including my time, at this point in life its not about the cost its about something else, there is nothig stopping anyone from making a safe crib, my crib will also have a four drawer dresser underneath the crib, all i can say is do your research, i am glad i found this forum as i was looking at finishes and just gained some insight from reading these, to all thank you for the assistance and to the original poster good luck and dont get discouraged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chud Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Congratulations on the imminent arrival! As others have said it can be a bit of a minefield with regards to safety etc and manufacturers have to update their designs on a regular basis to keep up with the regs. As far as the folk saying 'how did we ever survive'... not all of us did, it wasn't that long ago (15yrs?) that parents were advised to put babies asleep on their stomachs (to avoid choking etc) but it now transpires that greatly increases the risk of SIDS. One approach you could take is to find a commercial crib you really like and carbon copy it (with better wood etc). One thing I would recommend is a baby monitor with a sensor pad or similar (e.g. Angelcare); even amongst my circle of friends with children I know one child that was probably saved by one of these - if you do go for an angelcare though and you have a bigger cot etc then get the one with two sensor pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 I'll chime in just to add another experience. I have percolated on cribs a few times but, the duration of use and their eventual demise has always led me to reconsider. I put my efforts into a small bed that can convert to a bed that will last through adolescence, changing tables that become dressers, toy boxes that become blanket chests . . . If you go for a crib, do it for the sheer joy of doing it. They are always cherished and will be remembered fondly after they're gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnesota Steve Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Go to Ikea, buy a crib for $100... Very simple cribs, 4 sides, bottom... The cribs that got recalled had moving parts. Drop sides, all that sort of stuff. Then spend your time building a dresser that the kid will use for more than 3 years. And remember to fasten it to the wall... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bleedinblue Posted January 4, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 I built my baby's crib. I used plans though, which to my understanding were all up to current safety standards. It is a 3 in 1 design, so it will convert to a toddler bed probably mid-late this year, then to a full size bed a couple years after that. It should always be in use...which is a good thing, because with the time I spent on the build, I wouldn't sell it for less than a couple grand. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 17 minutes ago, bleedinblue said: I built my baby's crib. I used plans though, which to my understanding were all up to current safety standards. It is a 3 in 1 design, so it will convert to a toddler bed probably mid-late this year, then to a full size bed a couple years after that. It should always be in use...which is a good thing, because with the time I spent on the build, I wouldn't sell it for less than a couple grand. Beautiful job! How did you make the top rails on the head board? And the graphics in the last pic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedinblue Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Thanks Coop. The top rail in the headboard is a bent lamination. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 You certainly hid the fact! Very well done. I've never done bent laminates. Did you do the panel below the top rail after the glue up of the rail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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