bushwacked Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Well from all my travels I hit executive platinum and got my system wide upgrades (anywhere in the world for people who have not heard of this) so I sold them all to a buddy for $900I am looking to spend it all on my shop. However, I am not sure what would be the most beneficial ...I have:miter sawbandsawtablesawshop vacROSdrill pressair filter What I was thinking ....dust collectionstock up on different wood to have in shopsome tools Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I'm thinking I have no idea what a system wide upgrade is but I need to get me one. .Dust collector. Definately. Some wood, for sure. Tools, hell yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I'm thinking I have no idea what a system wide upgrade is but I need to get me one. .Dust collector. Definately. Some wood, for sure. Tools, hell yeah. system wide is when you hit executive platinum (100,000 miles with your but in the seat, not bonus miles) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Airline miles. Got it. I'm a jet blue super top secret flying ninja something or other. Never payed much attention until they started calling me by name and immediately upgrading me if available. Then I was like, holla... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I would add a router to that list, and a few bits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 good call ... will add router to something to look at.Dust collection I think will be a #1 priority, just not sure how soon I should buy it because I need to work out where I like everything first so that may be a later on update to the shop ... I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I was going to suggest some Festools, but meh, its only $900. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I was going to suggest some Festools, but meh, its only $900. ? Haha. Ya I have the FT 150.5 so anything else I want is over that limit sadly. I was thinking of the domino 500 but I think I could spend it better elsewhere for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I don't see a jointer or planer on your list. Those are not optional tools. The jointer should be the first machine used in every project, and the planer the second. Unless you like milling by hand? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estesbubba Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 What tools do you already have? I agree with Eric that a jointer and planer are tough to live without for very long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 JointerPlanerRouterDust collection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estesbubba Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 What tools do you already have? I agree with Eric that a jointer and planer are tough to live without for very long. Never mind you posted what you have. Once you have a jointer and planer the dust collector will naturally comes next - unless you have a big ass shovel and broom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponderingturtle Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 What are you finding limiting in your projects? Build stuff and if you need the tool for the project get the tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Staehling Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 What are you finding limiting in your projects? Build stuff and if you need the tool for the project get the tool.I think that this is the obvious and sensible answer. It depends on what you build and how you build it, so what others use may not be completely relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Flat boards are relevant in every project. Your choices are: S3S or S4S lumber for the rest of your life (and it's still not dead flat), milling boards by hand, or purchasing a jointer and planer. Using twisted, bowed and cupped boards is not an option. And neither is milling by hand unless you hate yourself.$900 can buy you a nice lunchbox planer and leave you money left over, or get you in the ballpark of a floor-standing model. A jointer and planer are best purchased as a pair, but while the jointer is completely useless without a planer, the planer can still be useful without the jointer...so get the planer first. But you do need both. It's not debatable if it's a serious hobby for you and you like building furniture. If you're a turner or a crafts kind of builder, never mind. For furniture it's not optional. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgreenb Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Yup, this is a no brainer to me. Pick up a Dewalt 735X and use the money left over for a router and HF dust collector. Or better yet use the money left over toward a jointer as well, if you can input a few more bucks. But like others have said, I wouldn't pass go until you pick up some milling equipment. Buying S3S sucks, and like Eric said it's not dead flat anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Flat boards are relevant in every project. Your choices are: S3S or S4S lumber for the rest of your life (and it's still not dead flat), milling boards by hand, or purchasing a jointer and planer. Using twisted, bowed and cupped boards are not an option. And neither is milling by hand unless you hate yourself.$900 can by you a nice lunchbox planer and leave you money left over, or get you in the ballpark of a floor-standing model. A jointer and planer are best purchased as a pair, but while the jointer is completely useless without a planer, the planer can still be useful without the jointer...so get the planer first. But you do need both. It's not debatable if it's a serious hobby for you and you like building furniture. If you're a turner or a crafts kind of builder, never mind. For furniture it's not optional.+1I wouldn't entertain anything other than a jointer/planer combo either. I have never used s3s or s4s for a project but you will have a really hard time making quality furniture with that, especially larger pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgreenb Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I'll even make it easy for you:http://www.amazon.com/PORTER-CABLE-693LRPK-Fixed-Router-Plunge/dp/B00006411C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1444051349&sr=8-2&keywords=porter+cable+690http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW735-13-Inch-Thickness-Planer/dp/B0000CCXU8/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1444051278&sr=1-2&keywords=dewalt+735http://www.harborfreight.com/2-hp-industrial-5-micron-dust-collector-97869.htmlA little bit over $900, but close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I looked at your list and assumed you had magical wood gnomes that milled your wood for you. I would have to say jointer and planer and an absolute necessity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Personally I'd spend the whole $900 on the best jointer you can get. Then scrape up another $250 and get a cheapo lunchbox planer. There is not a world of difference between a cheap planer and a Dewalt 735x. The 735x has some nice bells and whistles (2 speeds, 3 knives, and the DC blower) but you will get similar results from a cheap planer. Eventually you will want to upgrade the planer, but at that point you can decide if you want a stationary planer or just a nicer lunchbox. Yeah I know this is a little over budget once you factor in shipping....http://www.grizzly.com/products/8-Jointer-with-Parallelogram-Beds/G0490 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Irishman Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Personally I'd spend the whole $900 on the best jointer you can get. Then scrape up another $250 and get a cheapo lunchbox planer. There is not a world of difference between a cheap planer and a Dewalt 735x. The 735x has some nice bells and whistles (2 speeds, 3 knives, and the DC blower) but you will get similar results from a cheap planer. Eventually you will want to upgrade the planer, but at that point you can decide if you want a stationary planer or just a nicer lunchbox. Yeah I know this is a little over budget once you factor in shipping....http://www.grizzly.com/products/8-Jointer-with-Parallelogram-Beds/G0490 If I had it to do all over again and were in your shoes this would be my choice. Or I guess any other quality 8" jointer. Then I would add in orderDewalt 735Dust collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Staehling Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Unless you like milling by hand?Or if you work with small pieces. I find that for my work (lutherie) I am usually re-sawing and then the thickness sander is quite adequate for finishing up the small thin (0.10" or so) pieces that I tend to work with. Also the finished pieces I make tend to not be over 30" long or 7" wide. Jointing the edges of those small thin pieces is probably easier by hand than with power tools and the majority of the edges are cut to curves any way.I'd definitely want a planer and a jointer if I was making much furniture or otherwise working with thicker or larger stock.For the occasional larger project I get by with hand planes and the thickness sander. That or use someone else's jointer and planer. I don't use them often enough for it to make sense to invest the money or use up the shop space.I suppose that doesn't apply to very many folks here, but it may to some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Wright Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I agree with others. I have found that I can build most things with a table saw, jointer, planer, and simple router tabletable. Easiest tools for me to live without are (in order)Miter saw, dust collection, bandsaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwk5017 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Maybe post your general location, but I need to suggest Craigslist for the needs everyone else suggested. A 6" jointer of good quality should be pretty easy to come by on CL. A lunchbox planer should also be somewhat easy to come by. Finally, a single stage dust collector should be simple to acquire second hand. Then again, the HF is so cheap to begin with that you can just go that route. It it sucks that $900 doesn't go too far in woodworking. Going used on simple tools is a strategy I have used multiple times to stretch a buck. Heck, I've purchased 3 used jointers in the last year and a half or so. Pretty simple machines that are easy to buy used. Bought my first dust collector used on Craigslist. The cyclone was also "used", but it hadn't been assembled and used. Finally, I picked up a dw735x new in the box for a substantial discount. Point is, don't be afraid to buy two of the items on your list used! They are incredibly simple and you run a low risk of anything going bad on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 I don't see a jointer or planer on your list. Those are not optional tools. The jointer should be the first machine used in every project, and the planer the second. Unless you like milling by hand? What tools do you already have? I agree with Eric that a jointer and planer are tough to live without for very long. JointerPlanerRouterDust collection I'll even make it easy for you:http://www.amazon.com/PORTER-CABLE-693LRPK-Fixed-Router-Plunge/dp/B00006411C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1444051349&sr=8-2&keywords=porter+cable+690http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW735-13-Inch-Thickness-Planer/dp/B0000CCXU8/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1444051278&sr=1-2&keywords=dewalt+735http://www.harborfreight.com/2-hp-industrial-5-micron-dust-collector-97869.htmlA little bit over $900, but close. I looked at your list and assumed you had magical wood gnomes that milled your wood for you. I would have to say jointer and planer and an absolute necessity. Personally I'd spend the whole $900 on the best jointer you can get. Then scrape up another $250 and get a cheapo lunchbox planer. There is not a world of difference between a cheap planer and a Dewalt 735x. The 735x has some nice bells and whistles (2 speeds, 3 knives, and the DC blower) but you will get similar results from a cheap planer. Eventually you will want to upgrade the planer, but at that point you can decide if you want a stationary planer or just a nicer lunchbox. Yeah I know this is a little over budget once you factor in shipping....http://www.grizzly.com/products/8-Jointer-with-Parallelogram-Beds/G0490 Weeeeeell. Sounds like jointer/planer it is haha. Will look for the planet first and tag on the jointer maybe at Christmas. Come on grizzly and a discount coupon haha. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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