Brendon_t Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 I'm not sure if this is a known issue as I have actually never heard of it or maybe I just don't know what it's called. Being at my shop is small I use a Distan d10 for breaking down rough lumber to oversized rough length. Recently I have noticed that on the backstroke the tip of my saw whips back and forth furiously. Slowing down only partially helped as I still feel a lot of vibration in the blade. Does this have a name and is there something I'm doing that is causing it. I wouldn't consider it a problem more of a mild annoyance as again I am NOT cross cutting something to exact length Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 Excuse my ignorance but what the heck is a distan d10?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted November 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 Sorry, disston. Hand saw. The marking on the plate is pretty faint but I'm pretty sure it says d-10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 Ahhh a handsaw. Cool. Never heard of it but Im far from being a handsaw connaiseur... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 I've used a handsaw thousands of times, and never noticed one doing this. The only thing I can think of, and no idea if it's correct or not, is that the teeth may not have much set and something else is dragging in the cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Maybe you have the blade on backwards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Tpt life Posted November 12, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Poor stroke can lead to a fish tailing of the cut path. Handle left handle right through a slightly fish tailed cut leads to oscillation. Take a half step further back and keep your elbow in a single plane. It does not hurt to angle the saw when possible to keep more of the blade in the kerf. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Shot in the dark... Try rubbing a little paraffin wax on the sides of the blade, in addition to what C Shaffer suggested. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHoleInOne Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 I agree with Shaffer, try different technique. -Ace- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Wood that pinches on the kerf will cause this. On occasions you have to work through that, sometimes it might be not enough set on the saw, sometimes it's because you need a bit of practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strasberry Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Poor stroke can lead to a fish tailing of the cut path. Handle left handle right through a slightly fish tailed cut leads to oscillation. Take a half step further back and keep your elbow in a single plane. It does not hurt to angle the saw when possible to keep more of the blade in the kerf. I have the same Diston and have the same issue at times. Keeping sharp, proper technique are huge helps, but IMHO the spine of the saw sometimes is too limber and allow the whip also! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgaron Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 You could try to add extra tension to the saw, but other than being aware it can be done and the general procedure (light ball pein along the top from each side) I'd be hesitant to learn on a saw I otherwise liked well enough since done wrongly it would curve the blade or cause other issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted November 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 I pretty much guarantee my "technique" if you even want to call it that is not optimal. Hand sawing is not my jam. It's just a convenience thing. As far as the set, it is almost non existent, the kerf is extremely tight on the saw plate once the teeth have passed. I assumed most crosscut saws were set like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 I'm guessing the tight kerf just exsacerbates the possible slop in your technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 As far as the set, it is almost non existent, the kerf is extremely tight on the saw plate once the teeth have passed. I assumed most crosscut saws were set like that.In general, for rough dimensioning you'll want more set. For cutting joinery you want less set.You can get a saw setting tool pretty cheap ($25 new). It looks easy to do. I haven't done it yet, but when I get to rehabbing the other ebay saws I bought I'll have to.Here's the Lie-Nielsen video on setting the teeth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLzbTOPn5d8And here's the Lee Valley page with saw sets (the advice I received was to get the fine one) http://www.leevalley.com/US/Wood/page.aspx?p=32956 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinF Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 I have noticed that when using a handsaw and putting to much downward pressure on the saw. When your trying to muscle the cut and not let the saw do the work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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