wtnhighlander Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 While on vacation I picked up an inexpensive spoke shave, just because I didn't have one. The blade is installed bevel up but that seems like a very steep angle. Is bevel up correct for this tool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Bevel faces rearward. On Stanley tools it is easy to see because their stamp faces out away from the adjusters. I call it rearward but pull more often than push. I am labeling based on direction of travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHoleInOne Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 What Shaffer said. -Ace- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 @wtnhighlander, you might find it useful to make one of these blade holders for sharpening: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted May 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Thanks, everyone! I thought this thing looked as if it was assembled incorrectly, but I've never actually used one, and couldn't recall seeing which way the blade was mounted on any video I may have seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prov163 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 highlander, I'm thinking of buying one but like you haven't used one so not sure what I'm missing. Don't want to spend a fortune to find out. Have you used yours yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronn W Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 I don't have one either but just bought a blade and hardware kit from Veritas. Going to try to make my own bent laminated handle. Thought it might be a challenge. It is third on my to do list. Oops, make that "fourth" - I forgot that my wife wants me to paint the fence this spring. If I am lucky it will just keep raining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted May 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 No user review to report yet, as I'm still away from home. FWIW, the one I bought is just a cheap Shop Fox branded model. I picked it up at one of the "Tool Outlet" stores in Sevierville TN. Pretty much an overgrown Harbor Freight. I don't exactly expect a 'Veritas' experience, but it looks good enough to do the job, once I hone it and dial it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 hour ago, wtnhighlander said: No user review to report yet, as I'm still away from home. FWIW, the one I bought is just a cheap Shop Fox branded model. I picked it up at one of the "Tool Outlet" stores in Sevierville TN. Pretty much an overgrown Harbor Freight. I don't exactly expect a 'Veritas' experience, but it looks good enough to do the job, once I hone it and dial it in. Ross, if you're driving back give me a shout, I'll meet you somewhere along I-40 and get the vise thingy to you... PM me for the Phone number! Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted May 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Just to update those who asked, I did some tuning on the shave today. I did a half-hearted job of the usual tune-up steps for a hand plane. Flatten the sole, clean the area the blade sits in, squared up the blade clamp / chip breaker, flattened the back of the blade and honed the bevel. The blade is too short for my side-clamp jig to hold it at the correct angle, so I freehanded it. I tend to make a pretty well bellied bevel doing that, but the edge came out decent. Went through 180, 240, 320 grit diamond plates, medium & hard arkansas stones, a razor hone and a strop. Bevel has a nice polish. Maybe I misunderstood what you guys were telling me, but the cutter in this shave will only work bevel up. With the bevel down, it hits the front of the mouth before contacting wood. Anyway, I took a few shavings, and all I can say fir now is, 'meh!' I wasn't expecting great performance from a cheap tool, and mediocher is about what I got. Maybe I'll be more impressed after I hone a flat bevel on it, and find an actual spoke to shave... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Give us a pic Ross, or even better...a video. Maybe you have an odd tool or an iron not made to match. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted May 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Carus, I'll try to shoot a teardown video in the morning. One thing I noticed from watching yours, the cutter on mine seems thicker. Otherwise, it is just a cheap clone of yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Ross, does it look like my red Record spokeshave? If so - it's bevel down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted May 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 @sjk, mine looks more like Carus', but supposedly they are all supposed to be bevel down? My confusion came because this one was factory assembled with the bevel up. Mine looks like this: However, I have done some work on the tool, and re-ground the bevel a bit. @C Shaffer, I can now get it to take a shaving with the bevel down, but the mouth is REALLY tight. Not much wiggle room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 @wtnhighlander, I just measured and the blade in my Record is 1.75mm thick (0.069in) and the mouth opening is 3.60mm (0.142in). You can see the mouth is still open enough for thick shavings if I need. I also have a round bottomed one I got from EBay and the previous owner had replaced the blade with a much thicker Hock blade (2.40mm). That fills the mouth nearly closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted May 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 SJK, my blade is 7/64" thick, and the mouth is 15/64" wide. That translates to 2.78mm and 5.95mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Whats all this mm mumbo jumbo? You guys real Americans or what? Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 My Wixey digital calipers showed my blade was between fractional sizes, so I gave both units of measurement. Think of it this way, I was helping our Canadian forum members understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Hah!! Thanks brother !! Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 How come you metricists haven't metricified time? Why 60 minutes in an hour, not 10 deciminutes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted May 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 You ever tried to divide a circle into 10 equal parts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3nry Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 2 hours ago, sjk said: How come you metricists haven't metricified time? Why 60 minutes in an hour, not 10 deciminutes? The French did officially metricate time in 1793 - but it was kind of hard legislating 100 days in a year, so I guess it never caught on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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