Josiah Brown Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 I'm in the process of building a new shop and need to buy a dust collection system. The shop I am in now is 20'x20' and has no system installed. I have done all cleaning up with a small shop vac and a broom. My new shop will be about 40'x 25' and I have the budget to buy a system for it. One guy I met recommended the mini-gorilla which is a portable unit, but I'm not sure if portable or stationary is better. If all of my tools are not up against the wall would the stationary system be a problem? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Definitely a ducted system if you have the money . Id contact oneida or clearvue and get them to design the system for your needs/tool setup and give you a quote. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 You might take a look at Clearview.. A dedicated system is going to be expensive but, how much are your lungs worth? The system should be tied into all your stationary equipment and you should also have DC for the smaller power tools as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josiah Brown Posted May 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Ok I'll take a look at those Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxerjoe04 Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Sounds like a sweet shop size upgrade, what's your budget for a new dc, would help with giving opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josiah Brown Posted May 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 I'm willing to go pretty expensive if it is actually worth it. If its not necessary though for me to buy the highest end product then that would be great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxerjoe04 Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Would def get some kind of cyclone system and wall it off to help with noise and vent it outside, of course a really good system will be pretty expensive, but if you got a X thousand to spend on it, better peace of mind with the health side of it is def worth it. Of course as one guy mentioned before, he knows a lot of 80 year old life long cabinet makers who probably weren't always thinking dust control over the years, but why risk it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Wood talk podcast talked about the mini gorilla a bit ago. As I understand, it's more used in place of a shop vac or on a mitre station. Not really suited for a whole shop unless you want to tote it around and even then, it doesn't have the flow needed to collect on larger machines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Dust collection does two things: 1) Cleans up the mess 2) Cleans the air and protects your lungs For less than a grand you can put together a system that will clean up the mess. That's what I have...a 2hp blower, an aftermarket cyclone and drum, a labyrinth of 4" sewer & drain pipe, and a dozen or so self-cleaning blast gates. It picks up about 99% of the mess that my machines make. But it does NOTHING...let me repeat...NOTHING to address the fine airborne particulates that are hazardous to your health. In order to build a dust collection system that is truly capable of pulling the dangerous stuff out of the air, you're looking at multiple thousands of dollars, possibly 5k or more. It is very expensive. In addition, most of your machines will require invasive modifications in order for them to be efficient. A DC system is much like a chain...only as strong as its weakest link. You can have the world's biggest cyclone but if it gets squeezed down to a tiny port on a spindle sander it's not gonna do you any good. So think long and hard about what your objective is with DC. You can scratch together a fairly effective mess cleaner for pretty cheap, or you can lay out big bucks for a real system that actually keeps the air clean. I wouldn't bother wasting my money with anything in between. Not sure if Bill Pentz was mentioned yet in this thread, but it goes without saying...if you haven't read Pentz yet, start there. Post Script Tip...save your money, put together a rudimentary system, and wear a respirator. When you have every tool you've ever wanted, build a legit DC system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodger. Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Respirator is pretty much required for good lung protection, IMO. Even things like hand sanding kick up loads of find dust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ormonddmd Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 I'd recommend liking at the information on Down To Earth Woodworking. His name is Stephen Johnson and he has done a review on Dust Collectors and had a spread sheet that shows his heading system for several systems. He also has an article in the latest Highland Woodwork newsletter on Air Cleaners. Worth reading. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronn W Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 I found the attached file to be very informative. Good basic info. You could use it to at least get a good idea how to layout your ductwork and size the dust collector. I also atttached a Duct size chart. Air_Handling_Design_Guide.pdf Air Volume Chart - Velocities and Duct Sizes.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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