Popular Post shaneymack Posted June 12, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Got some shop time today. I wanted to make my dad a coffee table for fathers day but with little time I get in the shop there is no way I can get it done in a week. So i settled on a cute little box. I decided to make a bunch while Im at it. I will give one to my kids as well. I got in the shop before lunch and grabbed a piece of ply and drew up a simple full scale drawing and some wood combos and a cut list Here are all the parts milled up almost ready for dovetails Made a bunch of dowel that will be cut up for wood hinges. Maple, h. Mahongany, walnut and cherry I dialed in every part to perfection on the shooting board Did a poplar test box Dovetailed all the boxes The design is as simple as it gets. I'm doing this to try out the wood hinge so that is my focus more than a fancy box design. Bottoms will be ply with some sort of decorative paper. Thanks for looking! Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Looking good so far, Shane! Let's see those hinges! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Dang dud, Henry Ford would have been proud of you for batching those out! With that many dt's, surely not hand cut? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Nice bunch of boxes so far Shane. Am I seeing right, you use you Low Angle Jack on you shooting board? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sjk Posted June 12, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 2 hours ago, shaneymack said: I wanted to make my dad a coffee table for fathers day but with little time I get in the shop there is no way I can get it done in a week. I call BS! Shane's account got hacked! Who are you imposter? Shane could knock out a coffee table in 2 days, max. (Nice boxes btw) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted June 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Dang dud, Henry Ford would have been proud of you for batching those out! With that many dt's, surely not hand cut? No not handcut. I used the Leigh d4r pro. Its a lot easier to do them hand cut, just a lot slower. The more I use that jig, the more I realise I hate it with all my being. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Nice bunch of boxes so far Shane. Am I seeing right, you use you Low Angle Jack on you shooting board? Thanks Chet. Yes im using the low angle jack. Hopefully that will change on fathers day..... Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk I call BS! Shane's account got hacked! Who are you imposter? Shane could knock out a coffee table in 2 days, max. (Nice boxes btw) Haha, thanks Steve! Actually i probably could bang out a decect coffee table in a couple days but not the design I want to build for him. It has bent laminated aprons and a curved drawer within apron so i wouldn't want to be rushed to do it. He will have to enjoy this little box untill I can get around to it Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Looking good so far, Shane! Let's see those hinges! Thanks Daniel ! Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 The boxes look great, but you can't leave this hanging... 1 hour ago, shaneymack said: The more I use that jig, the more I realise I hate it with all my being. Why? My only problem with it is the repeated learning curve. I have to go through the manual every time for setup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 1 hour ago, shaneymack said: The more I use that jig, the more I realise I hate it with all my being. i don't disagree with you much on anything shane but i really like mine, dovetails, box joints, sliding dovetails, half blind dovetails are all a breeze on mine, i use it all the time. i will say i haven't had the courage (or time) to try hand cut dovetails, maybe this winter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted June 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 The boxes look great, but you can't leave this hanging... Why? My only problem with it is the repeated learning curve. I have to go through the manual every time for setup. I just think it is way easier to screw something up with this jig than with hand cut. This jig gives you nothing over hand cut except speed. And the speed ONLY comes if you are batching out the exact same size drawer over and over and IF you have dedicated routers for all the bits that stay set up. Its so damn finicky, I really hate it. Its just that I feel im so invested in it i keep going back to it. Something always goes wrong for me no matter how dilligent i am at reading the manual over and over again. Most often i am cutting asymmetric dovetails which requires more brain power. If i were doing them by hand there is little brain power, layout amd cut. Obviously other things come into play with handcut but the process is so much more pleasant. I used to only cut half blind and through by hand untill I got this thing and I keep thinking of going back. Or a combo of bandsaw and chisels. I dont know. I keep thinking i just need more time in the saddle with it but the more I use it the more i dislike it. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk i don't disagree with you much on anything shane but i really like mine, dovetails, box joints, sliding dovetails, half blind dovetails are all a breeze on mine, i use it all the time. i will say i haven't had the courage (or time) to try hand cut dovetails, maybe this winter I hear ya Dave. Maybe I just need to practise a lot more with it. It could totally be that im just not very good with it because lots of people like it. It seems i always get some weird problem that i cant figure out. Yesterday I was cutting asymmetric dovetails and the dovetails all came out great on the first two boxes. Then when i got to the birdseye tails it went bad. Cutting my B And D Sides on the left side of the jig was fine. When i did my A amd C sides on the right side i had one tail too tight amd one tail too loose !! How the @$#*/£= does that happen !! I never figured out the problem. I re did the parts without the vrs and they came out great. I was covered in dust but the parts were good =). Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 i agree with you shane, asymmetric dovetails do take more thought, but look at your result on those beautiful boxes. i doubt that you could have done them all by hand in the time you had available to do them. i have used mine a lot and i only have one router for the job so i have to set it up every time, i get faster with it every time i use it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenskye Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Nice boxes Speedymack! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted June 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 i agree with you shane, asymmetric dovetails do take more thought, but look at your result on those beautiful boxes. i doubt that you could have done them all by hand in the time you had available to do them. i have used mine a lot and i only have one router for the job so i have to set it up every time, i get faster with it every time i use it You are probably right Dave. Im still annoyed from yesterday lol. I have been using tools for a long time and most tools i just use and dont think about. When there is something wrong i just tune it up and keep on going. It seems like with this jig I am always on edge and double and triple checking everything. I normally don't have to put much thought into using tools so it really messes with my usual workflow. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 i've had the same thing happen to me, i believe it was due to the bit slipping in the collet, my only complaint about that jig is the 1/2" to 8mm adapter, it sucks. a friend bought a 8mm collet for his PC and no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted June 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 i've had the same thing happen to me, i believe it was due to the bit slipping in the collet, my only complaint about that jig is the 1/2" to 8mm adapter, it sucks. a friend bought a 8mm collet for his PC and no problems. Please explain more this bit slipping in the collet and why it would cause my problem. Speak slowly, im Canadian. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 not a Canadian thing Shane, it's a wood worker thing, my problem was the bit slipped down causing a loose joint. when i do asymmetrical joints i use a marking knife to transfer finger positions from left to right. maybe this was your issue, maybe not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted June 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 not a Canadian thing Shane, it's a wood worker thing, my problem was the bit slipped down causing a loose joint. when i do asymmetrical joints i use a marking knife to transfer finger positions from left to right. maybe this was your issue, maybe not Interesting. I don't think that is the issue. The router i had the dovetail bit in had the actual 8mm collet in it. The router with the straight bit had the collet adapter. It bizarre because all I did was remove the vrs and the second pieces came out fine which doesnt make sense to me. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Shane the boxes look great, I can't wait to see the hinges! I get what you're saying about that coffee table design, glue only dries so fast. Oh, and did you realise that your shooting board is backwards? ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 I think he is a lefty, like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 43 minutes ago, shaneymack said: It bizarre because all I did was remove the vrs and the second pieces came out fine which doesnt make sense to me. you're right Shane that dosent seem right, have to think on that one a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted June 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Shane the boxes look great, I can't wait to see the hinges! I get what you're saying about that coffee table design, glue only dries so fast. Oh, and did you realise that your shooting board is backwards? ? Thanks Ross! Yup im a lefty, but a weird one. I use a hand plane right and use a shooting board left. Come to think of it, I'm pretty ambidextrous when it comes to woodworking. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Just now, shaneymack said: Thanks Ross! Yup im a lefty, but a weird one. I use a hand plane right and use a shooting board left. Come to think of it, I'm pretty ambidextrous when it comes to woodworking. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk So am I. I have two left hands though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephThomas Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 4 hours ago, shaneymack said: Thanks Chet. Yes im using the low angle jack. Hopefully that will change on fathers day..... What will the improvement be? A finer cut? Or just the efficiency of not using a plane for 2 different tasks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 37 minutes ago, treeslayer said: It bizarre because all I did was remove the vrs and the second pieces came out fine which doesnt make sense to me. hey Shane, if the depth was ok i would suspect that you rotated the router a bit, the guide bushing is elliptical and if you rotate the router, i.e. don't keep it square to the jig, your cut will be off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted June 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 hey Shane, if the depth was ok i would suspect that you rotated the router a bit, the guide bushing is elliptical and if you rotate the router, i.e. don't keep it square to the jig, your cut will be off Nope not that either. That is my focus when im routing, keeping the router at 12 o'clock. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk What will the improvement be? A finer cut? Or just the efficiency of not using a plane for 2 different tasks? I guess ill have to wait untill fathers day to see.. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 officially stumped also shane, more thought needed and maybe a nap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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