Fxguy Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 So my wife and I are staining s hickory plywood top for her craft table but the stain came out uneven... How can we even this out and get a nice even coat? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 What type of stain did you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 That almost looks like runs in the stain. How did you apply it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 At first I thought this was a sanding issue. Then I thought maybe the glue was telegraphing through the veneer. The pattern is quite irregular and doesn't really typically look like either. Can you tell us more about how you prepared the surface and what product you applied and how it was applied? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Looks like dried lap marks to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxguy Posted August 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 I sanded to 120 with my festool sander then applied the stain below with a foam brush. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 120 is probably too aggressive for commercial plywood. those veneers are presanded and thin. Hand sanding with 180 is all you should need. I think you orobably did sand down to the glue layer in some spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Time for contact cement and some laminate? There is little you an do to recover from sanding through veneer other than coloring or covering to the point that the original surface is completely hidden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 How does the other side look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxguy Posted August 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Here is the other side.... But it is sanded the same.... I don't think I sanded to through, here is a corner that I can see the thickness of the veneer... I thought it might be because the two of us were staining and she applied more stain in those areas where we overlapped. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 It could be overlap. Did you wipe away the excess? You don't need to sand all the way through to have problems with stain. The adhesive penetrates into the veneer. If you sand too much, you will hit the part where veneer is basically filled with adhesive and won't take as much stain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 "mahogany" stain seems to be a different animal from other color formulations, in my limited experience. I always find it difficult to apply evenly. The method of rubbing it it with an almost dry rag seems to work best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 If it's like my wife's craft table, she'll have a rainbow of paint all over it in three months anyway. Then she covered it in craft paper to prevent any more paint drips. So essentially it'll end up craft brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 I would scrub with the grain using a gray abrasive pad and mineral spirits . Remove as much stain as possible then see what it looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHoleInOne Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 Did you pour the stain directly out onto the wood then begin to work the stain? The GF stain is water based, so mineral spirits probably won't help. Try washing the wood with 80% Denatured Alcohol to 20% water. Get a good scrub-brush and work with the grain. If that don't work, use a chemical stripper or hell, just go straight to the chemical stripper. You may want to dye the ply wood first to get a good base color. Then adjust your color with stain. Or try wetting the plywood with water from a spray bottle to dampen the wood then begin your staining. The water will help to prevent blotching. -Ace- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midtnwoodworker Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 10 minutes ago, AceHoleInOne said: Did you pour the stain directly out onto the wood then begin to work the stain? +1 That's what it looks like to me. It looks like the stain was poured on and where it was poured soaked in before it was spread evenly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 I did not notice it was a water based stain until Ace pointed it out. Water based stains dry fast. I think GF puts something in to help retard the drying, but it still dries fast. Oil based stains dry more slowly and are more forgiving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Wright Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 When i am finishing surface that big I always use a roller to apply the bulk of the material then come back with a brush or rag to wipe off any excess and make it even. That will help you avoid problems with lap marks and the finish drying too fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Would a wiping stain be a potential fix here? I've used Old Master's wiping stains in the past and been quite pleased with the result. Because of the way they go on as a more paint like layer vs. a penetrating stain, I find I have fewer issues with splotches. That being said, if a wood will readily accept a penetrating stain, I'd choose that route, since to me it is more durable in that scratches and gauges have to go deeper to expose anything below the stained layer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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