Unknown craftsman Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 So I ordered a new set of Bryd inserts for my planer.Im thinking about torquing my new set.My last rotation I did break 5 or 6 using a hand drive. Does anyone torque their inserts? 55 lbs seems like a lot but that's what the Great Google says. Thanks. Aj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 55 inch pounds. I use a torque wrench with this range. No problems ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 No experience with carbide cutters, but it's a very brittle material. I wouldn't even think about tightening them without a good torque wrench. If one gets even a microscopic crack & then lets go in use, the pieces can bang around & take out half the other cutters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 2 hours ago, drzaius said: No experience with carbide cutters, but it's a very brittle material. I wouldn't even think about tightening them without a good torque wrench. If one gets even a microscopic crack & then lets go in use, the pieces can bang around & take out half the other cutters. Too true. The cost of a torque wrench to do it properly will pale in the face of half your cutters getting trashed. Too often I see tales of woe from people who have high dollar machines but won't use quality tools to align or maintain them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ronn W Posted September 6, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Inch pounds, not foot pounds!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown craftsman Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 47 minutes ago, Ronn W said: Inch pounds, not foot pounds!! I new there was something I was missing.Ive torqued thousands of Kb3 wedge anchors and Hdi's.All day I've been trying to wrap my head around a 10/32 trox screw handling The same as a1/2 inch wedge anchor. I didn't even know they made torque wrenches in inches. Thanks Ron you probably saved me one insert. Aj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapid Roger Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 You can convert inch pounds to foot pounds by dividing in. lbs. by 12...55 in. lb. = 4.58 ft. lb. . Kind of hard to find a ft. lb. torque wrench that goes down that low but, it gives you an idea of what you are talking about. I would just try to snug the screws down to about equal torque if you are not interested in buying an in. lb. torque wrench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Byrd head, all those cutters, and not invest in a torque wrench? Seems silly to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21meyer Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 I have been meaning to pick up a small torque wrench for this application. Does anyone have any recommendations? I was thinking this one might do the trick. https://www.amazon.com/Neiko®-10573B-4-Inch-Screwdriver-Inch-Pound/dp/B000RZ1D86/ref=cm_wl_huc_item Thanks, Cody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Personally i'd run this. I also do a lot of automotive work so it'd be useful there. The tool you linked only goes to 50 in lbs. I'm always skeptical of torque wrench accuracy at their extreme ends as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 I will second the Tekton. I run a full suite of Tekton for hobby automotive and am well pleased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21meyer Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 20 hours ago, Chestnut said: Personally i'd run this. I also do a lot of automotive work so it'd be useful there. The tool you linked only goes to 50 in lbs. I'm always skeptical of torque wrench accuracy at their extreme ends as well. Good catch, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown craftsman Posted October 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 @Ronn W Thanks to Rons pointing out the difference between Inch pounds and foot pounds I did not break one insert installing new ones. I also sent some wood thru and no inserts broke.This weekend I am building a Cherry and maple end grain cutting board. Next week I should be ready to send it thru the planer.That will be the real test since its end grain. Aj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 End grain goes through a drum sander not a planer no matter how light of a cut you take ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 I have a hunch, that you may not like the end result! Drum sander! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown craftsman Posted October 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Well i appreciate the warning from Wdwerker and RichardA.You are right end grain should not be sent thru a planer.So i wouldn't recommend it to anyone unless your ok with possibly destroying your machine. Ive been trying to kill my planer.I really want a bigger one. So I finished the cherry cutting boards.The Bryd did a fine job leveling them out.I wasn't too worried since I've owned this Pm 15 I've put some pretty hard woods thru it.Also did some end grain boards in Hard maple when i first bought it. The gnarlyist wood I've ever planed has got to be mesquite.Thats stuffs is brutal. Heres what it looked like in the clamps. Then with a little mineral oil before the planer. Then after the cut.The new inserts did fine job as expected. In the project section i will show the finish boards. Aj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdie Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 All I'm asking is that you be careful with inserts ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown craftsman Posted October 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, Byrdie said: All I'm asking is that you be careful with inserts ... Ok I'll try my best not to get them mixed in with my Rice Krispys. Aj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedinblue Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I've ran a couple end grain boards through my planer, the crapper version of the Dewalt with straight knives. It worked perfectly, except for horrible blowout on the back end. I just trimmed off a couple inches. After I did this, I read some horror stories and wont' do it again. I actually thought there was a very real possibility of kickback that can throw the whole board back out at you. The machine can be replaced, but dangerous operations should be avoided IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 I had to reseat all my cutters on my pm 15hh. I set all my cutters with a snap on torque wrench using the bit they provide with the cutters. I missed the inch pounds thing as well and said no freaking way this can't be right. I set it to 4.5 foot pounds and everything was fine Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 I bought a used Byrd head for my planer, and was experiencing the occasional broken insert. I ended up removing them all, cleaning the head and then torquing them all down to spec (**inch** pounds.....) and have not had a broken one since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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