Coop Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 For the last couple of weeks, I have been using a #5 to take the slight twist and bow out of a walnut slab. I probably had three, 5 gallon buckets of shavings when completed. I used winding sticks and a good straight edge to get it close enough to run thru the ds, as it was too wide for my jointer and/or planer. It seems that this was easier accomplished, aside from the labor and liquid consumed, than putting an edge on a board. When you guys use a hand plane on the edge of a board, do you constantly refer to a square and straight edge to get it right, or does it just come naturally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 If it comes "naturally", I haven't gotten there yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim DaddyO Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I am always checking because it does not come naturally to me either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheperd80 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Nope, doesnt come naturally to me either. Ive gotten a little better at feeling when im getting out of square, but i still have to check and correct constantly Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I check the surface of the board for high spots by rubbing the board on my bench, get the wobble out, then check the board with the side of my plane. If I'm getting long shavings out of the plane running in diagonals, I'll take a swipe long ways. Then I'll hit it with the jointer plane, again checking my progress with the side of the plane. Doesn't take long to get it "flat enough" to send through the planer or DS if it's too big for the planer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedinblue Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I think Colin made a thread about a jig he made to make edge jointing by hand easier With very little hand tool experience, I obviously check with a square. I usually suspect before I put the square on if I am off or not, but the square is absolutely necessary for me to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Well it's official, now that Coop has gotten into the hand tool world, the bottom will indefinitely fall out. If you've got boutique planes, sell em now or risk their price going to cast iron salvage price.... the end is near. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 If you own a tablesaw, why would you even attempt to edge joint by hand? For me, "feeling" square has never worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Perhaps, the piece is to large, or to irregular. A straight line sled works for me on the TS, when I have odd shaped pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted October 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 2 hours ago, wtnhighlander said: If you own a tablesaw, why would you even attempt to edge joint by hand? For me, "feeling" square has never worked. Ross, I wanted to be like everyone else and be able to edge joint boards for the perfect glue up. Apparently I'm already like some, in that I do use the ts for that purpose. I've even taken my board out the vise and put it thru the ts to clean up my hand plane work! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 One option is to edge joint it by hand, and clean up with the table saw. If you get the edge flat even if it is 85 degrees instead of 90 you can still run it against the fence, the leading edge will ride the fence fine. So you cut the other side to 90 and flip and cut again. 1 hour ago, wtnhighlander said: If you own a tablesaw, why would you even attempt to edge joint by hand? For me, "feeling" square has never worked. Edge jointing by hand is pretty fast and fun. Nice to have options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryMcK Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I check constantly with a square and either a straight edge or the side of the jointer plane. Mention of table saws in the handtool section of the forum is probably taboo. Otherwise it should be known as the Hybrid section 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 When edge jointing I use a square to check at different parts of the board. I grab the plane in such a way that the middle phalanx of my left hand index finger makes contact with the face of the board I'm squaring against, acting like a fence. Only my thumb is on top of the plane, the rest of my hand is under it. That seems to help me "feeling" the squareness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Llama Posted October 18, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 If you are having a hard time jointing a board by hand, you can put them together in the vise and plane.. This will give you two benefits. 1) Larger reference surface for your plane 2) When you open them any deviation is taken up by the offset angle in the other board. You could plane crooked, and the boards will joint up cleanly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barron Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I check very frequently once I get a smooth looking edge and a good shaving. Both for square and for flatness. You may already be doing this, but I mark the out of square sections with a pencil, and just work that segment. Same for high/low spots. Checking and marking has really sped up how quickly I get to where I'm going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted October 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Thanks everyone for your input! 21 hours ago, Brendon_t said: Well it's official, now that Coop has gotten into the hand tool world, the bottom will indefinitely fall out. If you've got boutique planes, sell em now or risk their price going to cast iron salvage price.... the end is near. And no, your investments are secure! I'll continue the unique up on it method, until the board gets almost too narrow to use, then I'll take it to the ts and correct the previous hours work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 The lazy way to do hand work is get it good enough to reference a machine surface. If you're going this route then don't settle for anything less than good enough. Make sure you incorporate this into your workflow so you can tell people you hand milled your lumber. Be sure to leave out the part where you used machines, nobody wants to hear about that. Also, be sure to take plenty of pictures with a hand plane sitting on top of the board, it makes for ultimate authenticity. In all seriousness, this was a twisted board that I made stable enough to pass through my industrial lunchbox planer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, Freddie said: I made stable enough to pass through my industrial lunchbox planer. That sounds hand milled to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 51 minutes ago, Brendon_t said: That sounds hand milled to me... Almost as hand made as double sticking it to a CNC bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxdabroxx Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 19 hours ago, Llama said: Almost as hand made as double sticking it to a CNC bed. After knocking off the high spots by hand of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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