bushwacked Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Wife just agreed to the budget last night ... mainly it is our Christmas budget we each get this year. Sooooo...I need a Planer/Jointer/Dust Collection With that need list, I figured I would go after the planer and DC, mainly because I can make jigs for the planer to get my boards parallel and cut the straight edge on the table saw with some more jigs ... Is at least my thought process. I am pretty sure I want to go with the Dewalt 13" 735 planer. with my budget, I dont see any reason to go with anything less ... do you? Then that leave me with DC. I know there is tons of reading on DC and CFM and blah blah blah, but with my budget it is not like I am getting a CV or anything nice like that. It will be a standard model like grizzly/shop fox/jet ect ... However, I have no idea out of the basic models, which ones I should be looking at to narrow it down? I will attach the DC to my table saw/ planer / sanding area / miter saw station. If I can only open 1 gate at a time, then that is fine with me. If i can use it on 2 at once, then more power to me. Any help on that area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 I think most of the jet/hf/shop fox 2hp units are the exact same except for paint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodger. Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 The older Delta model 50-760 is well reviewed and is a champ. Need to go used though, as they are no longer made. It's a one micron filtration, single stage model. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21meyer Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 The DW735 is a good planer and if you are set on that, you may have to buy new because you don't see many being resold. You might get lucky. I would personally look for a used jointer and used DC in order to stay within budget. It depends how 'hand tool oriented' you are but woodworking became a lot more fun for me when I purchased a jointer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardA Posted October 19, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 735 and an HF dc and you'll still have about $100 in your pocket, for hoses and connections. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonPacific Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 1 hour ago, RichardA said: 735 and an HF dc and you'll still have about $100 in your pocket, for hoses and connections. The HF DC works... But it takes some work to make it work. I bought one, and sat it ontop of a Super Dust Deputy (~$200), trust me, dealing with the bags and clamp on the unit will make you never want to turn it on. A cyclone and trash can are the way to go. If you want an upgrade in airflow, someone posted recently about dropping a Rikon impeller into the unit, as a nice upgrade (~$80 I think). The 735 is well regarded, hard to go wrong there. If you feel the need to save a little money, the 734 is also a workhorse. The primary differences are the chip blower (less important with a DC) and a second (slower) optional feed rate, which leaves a smoother surface (96 cuts-per-inch and 179 cpi). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minorhero Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 The harbor freight dust collector works fine out of the box if you move it from tool to tool (don't expect to let it sit in the corner and run 50 feet of hose off of it without basically taking it apart and turning it into a cyclone) Moving it tool to tool it will do a great job for anything that isnt a large drum sander. Certainly will work fine for any normal sized planer and table saw. That said you have been around long enough to know that used tools are a very good buy. Any reason you don't want to go that route? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 No reason not to buy used. Majority of my tools are used. I just live in a crap area in north Texas where jointers and planers and D.C. Units don't come around often. So it takes a long time of searching and getting lucky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedinblue Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 The used market around here is pretty awful too. I get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minorhero Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 How far you willing to drive? Try these guys if they are in range. Look like they want to unload these things and the dust collector looks like an older model jet. http://lubbock.craigslist.org/tld/5806559902.html If you say you are willing to pay 60% of their asking you will likely walk away with them. Not sure if these are the same people or not: http://lubbock.craigslist.org/tls/5833246964.html I rebuilt a parks planer and its a decent machine. Better then a 735 not as good as say an older model 12" powermatic. This one is missing the belt cover but those are available still. Plus they mention other tools, if its a different seller then the previous link you may want to contact them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 I've seen the first post a few times but closed sat and sun so that's a deal breaker. Lubbock is about 4 hours away. So 8 + hours driving plus test and load time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephThomas Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 The 735 is great, but I would add too that I had a ridgid lunchbox planer for the lastyear and it worked great. Doesn't have as many features as the 735, but it does get the job done and costs a bit less. Just a thought...I'd rather have the ridgid planer plus a jointer than the 735 and no jointer at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Drive up to my place and I'll give you the old Grizz planer that I just replaced with a new 735 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Drive up to my place and I'll give you the old Grizz planer that I just replaced with a new 735 Haha. Bring it down on your work trip Kev I was also looking at the 734... worth seriously considering? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, bushwacked said: Haha. Bring it down on your work trip Kev I was also looking at the 734... worth seriously considering? Don't know when I'm going back to Texas.. Going to Baton Rouge in December but, I'm not driving on that one. I've heard good things about the 734 as well but, if given the choice, I'd take the 735 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 4 hours ago, RichardA said: 735 and an HF dc and you'll still have about $100 in your pocket, for hoses and connections. I'm witcha all the way there Rick. I have both and wouldn't take anything for them! I have a friend that bought the 734 to save a buck and is still kicking his wife in the butt. But he doesn't have a dc either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Don't know when I'm going back to Texas.. Going to Baton Rouge in December but, I'm not driving on that one. I've heard good things about the 734 as well but, if given the choice, I'd take the 735 Well dang! Why the 735? Just curious... I'm witcha all the way there Rick. I have both and wouldn't take anything for them! I have a friend that bought the 734 to save a buck and is still kicking his wife in the butt. But he doesn't have a dc either. Did you modify the D.C.? Does he not like the planet cause no D.C. And that planer struggles with no D.C.? I've heard changing the bags on the HF one is a pain to change?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, bushwacked said: Well dang! Why the 735? Just curious... Dust collection, good results, ability to change the head if I choose, rave reviews, and good experience with the ones I've used. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 27 minutes ago, bushwacked said: Well dang! Why the 735? Just curious... Did you modify the D.C.? Does he not like the planet cause no D.C. And that planer struggles with no D.C.? I've heard changing the bags on the HF one is a pain to change?? I did modify it to look something like this. pretty good size ( 2'x4') foot print though. Investigate HF dc conversion with Thien Baffle and Wynn filter. With a 25'x4" hose from Rockler, it'll suck your socks off. When I connect it to my 735, I have to turn the planer on first, otherwise it will pull itself to the planer. HF has them on sale occasionally and with the coupon that comes out frequently, it's hard to beat. I used a 35 gal. Fiber drum as the primary collector and epoxied a thin strip of plexiglass to the side as a sight glass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 One of the things that always seems to get left out of the conversation in regards to the 735 is the fact that it has four screw columns, on at each corner of the machine. I believe this is one of the reasons that the 735 does such a great job of eliminating snip. Most lunch box planers have two screw columns one on each side in the center allowing more movement of the cutter head as the wood goes through. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Gotcha! So without the mods ... is it still worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estesbubba Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 I had the HF DC for 10 years and if you move the hose from machine to machine it works great. I did get better bags from Grizzly to replace the King size pillow cases it came with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 I had the HF DC for 10 years and if you move the hose from machine to machine it works great. I did get better bags from Grizzly to replace the King size pillow cases it came with. Ok good to know. So you're saying it is not good enough to put in dedicated runs to it? I'm not talking crazy lengths but it is a 2 car garage. With machines all in a 1 car space ... well machines that would use the dust collection. On a Side note... I was looking into this one besides the HF DC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Just adding to the list. I have the HF DC and 735. I have 2 blast gates installed to switch between the table saw and the planer when i have it connected. Both work great but as I'm sure your aware the collector is for chip collection and doesn't remove the harmful dust. I was going to modify mine but I'd rather make stuff I'm interested in then mess around with a dust collector. Use them both as the sit save the time for making furniture to pay for a better upgrade, or a Powermatic PJ-882 HH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Ya if I go HF I'm not expecting much from it. Just want it to work and not die in a few months haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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