treeslayer Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 ok, so i have a bunch of small crosses i have built for the local trophy shop and decided to use spray lacquer in a can for ease of use and quick drying time, i works great but my problem is with the end grain soaking in the finish, after four coats and its still soaking it in. should i use something to seal the end grain before applying the lacquer? sanded down to 320 if that makes a difference, the wood i'm using are white and red oak, cherry and mahogany, this is the first time for me using lacquer and it seems to be a quick and easy finish especially in this application, thanks in advance for the help guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post estesbubba Posted November 7, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 I would try dewaxed shellac. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barron Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 The oak will really soak up finish. You might want to sand up to 600 or even 800 grit, just on the end grain. I've also had good results spraying into a small cup, then using a brush to hit the end grain. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted November 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 i thought of that and also thinned ARS but wasn't sure what can go under lacquer, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I have done exactly what Barron suggested. When I did it I did the end grain first and the sprayed the rest after it dried. Don't use a paper cup that has wax. And don't ask me how I know that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I vote for sealing the ends with lacquer before spraying. Chet and Barron seem to have been there and done that, probably have the t-shirts to prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonPacific Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I haven't done this personally, but in your situation I think I'd buy a small can of brushing lacquer, just for the end grain. Spray lacquer is wonderful stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted November 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 again thanks to all, this is exactly why i hang out here, along with many other reasons, great advice from people who have been there done that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Stuff in a can must be way different than the precat lacquer I been using . Never had any problems at all except my head is pounding tonight from spraying a table today. Not to good for ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewyo Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 16 minutes ago, mat60 said: Stuff in a can must be way different than the precat lacquer I been using . Never had any problems at all except my head is pounding tonight from spraying a table today. Not to good for ya. I have to agree with Mat. I've not had anything like what you're describing when I've used Sherwin Williams pre-cat or Deft/Cabot's rattle can lacquer. After one coat the end grain is sealed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted November 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 i was using Watco spray lacquer and maybe giving it too light of a coat each time, i do like the finish it gives in this application and may look into a spray gun in the future, and a better mask when spraying, it does give a buzz that can't be good for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, treeslayer said: i was using Watco spray lacquer and maybe giving it too light of a coat each time, i do like the finish it gives in this application and may look into a spray gun in the future, and a better mask when spraying, it does give a buzz that can't be good for you I think allot of the problem for me is I need to keep working in the shop after spraying a coat and and dont keep my mask on all day. Would be so nice to have a different room just for spraying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown craftsman Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I really like Deft spray laquer that's probably why they stopped selling it here in California. They are now trying to pass on the water based stuff.But it's not the even close to Nitro laquer. Ive also noticed it doesn't build very well in end grain.I read somewhere it doesn't have a lot of solids.But I don't know if it's true. Aj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post treeslayer Posted November 9, 2016 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 On November 7, 2016 at 4:54 PM, estesbubba said: I would try dewaxed shellac i had a rush job today, small walnut base and did as estesbubba recomended and it worked great, had the base in the customers hands in under 2 hours. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmotjr Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 On 11/7/2016 at 7:34 PM, Chet K. said: I have done exactly what Barron suggested. When I did it I did the end grain first and the sprayed the rest after it dried. Don't use a paper cup that has wax. And don't ask me how I know that. Nor use a styrofoam cup to catch the spray. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estesbubba Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I use shellac in some way on many of my projects: For items that don't need a lot of protection it can be a complete finish When using waterborne topcoats garnet is great on woods like cherry and walnut to warm them up like oil does It's a great seal coat under oil varnishes and will add depth and clarity and allow varnish to build faster It's a great barrier coat between dyes/stains and oil/water topcoats 1/2# cut can be used as wood conditioner for blotchy woods although I don't do this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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