W. Stony Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Before I commit, has anyone tried these alternatives to French cleats? Eco Supply stock them. Screenshot attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Not used those, but I don't think they would be nearly as easy to use as french cleats. With a french cleat you can just hang the cabinet without having to aim for the little bracket. It would also be stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 This could save you if you forget to leave room at the rear of a cabinet for a french cleat; very low profile. The alignment would be a lot more fussy so I wouldn't want to do a lot of them. For the occasional wall cabinet they would be fine. I have used these before as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Stony Posted January 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Thanks drzaius and gee-dub. What attracted me was that on the web site it gives some impressive load test results and they have those red marker tools like dowel markers for setting out. Stops sideways movement too. Gee-dub, I've used a similar one to the metal one you shared but they had 4 screws on each plate and were really difficult to get to line up when working blind. Found Buttonfix on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=idWObs9FQVI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bankstick Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Not an expert but French cleats could be attached anywhere there is a wall stud. The number of screws would be determined by the length of the part attached to the wall. Those gizmos would have to be attached to a wall stud and then you would have the challenge of trying to line them up. I have a wall clock that has a small triangular loop. It takes several tries to hit the nail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wtnhighlander Posted January 11, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 But you can make french cleats yourself!!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcworthWW Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I have used these to hang several projects. They are low profile and give you some wiggle room during installation. http://www.rockler.com/2-z-clips 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroDave Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, AcworthWW said: I have used these to hang several projects. They are low profile and give you some wiggle room during installation. http://www.rockler.com/2-z-clips Now those make sense...essentially a low profile french cleat. I like it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Court Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 I invented these and licensed them to Fastcap to be a better alternative to french cleats. I worked in the sign industry for many years and came up with this idea out of of frustration with how long it takes to properly map out and install french cleats. These serve the same purpose as far as being a concealed/strong/removable way to attach panels, frames, etc, but make the process much easier, particularly for large production runs. To use them you just drill a couple pocket holes near the top of your object, press in the pocket pegs, peel off the liner and press your object onto the wall! you can then remove the object, add some screws, and pop it back on to the pegs. For large production runs of art panels or something like that, a table based pocket hole machine makes this process extremely easy compared to making/adding french cleats to each panel. Not to mention that it is much much easier to install. Check them out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 18 minutes ago, Court said: Check them out! Really cool idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Stony Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 I need strength and 5lbs per peg is no where near as strong as the Buttonfix's test results where it breaks at an incredible 440lbs so I guess its safe at say 100lbs if I use a good wall fixing. I tried them and they work brilliantly with a nice click as they go home. No sideways movement either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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