thunder86 Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Having problems getting a nice flat surface coming out on the face. I believe I have a proper setup as the width side seems to come out ok. I'm new to a jointer and it's the length side so I know it's me doing it and not the machine. OK so where do I apply the pressure at on the wood? My indeed table is about 1/16 of an inch lower than the outfeed. When I put all the pressure on the outfeed it cuts the front of the board but never touches the rest 3/4 of the board. When I put the pressure on the back of the board it cuts it but it's all the place. I'm getting a huge wedge long ways. I'm lost on where to apply the pressure. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 The best thing for you to do is look up jointing videos. A good video is worth about a million words. Pretty sure Marc has one on Wood Whisperer, Fine Woodworking has some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunder86 Posted January 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 I watched Marc where he said to put the pressure on the outfeed table but like I said when I do this the rest of the board never gets touched and I'm unsure as to why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barron Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 How much twist in the board? Twist can make it difficult to get complete cuts until you remove a lot of the board. Fine Woodworking has a video tip up right now on dealing with twisted boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Good video by Bob Van Dyke on Fine Woodworking's site - http://www.finewoodworking.com/2017/01/10/flattening-extremely-warped-board-jointer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunder86 Posted January 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 It wasn't twisted very much at all. 2x4 that just wasn't sitting quite flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 If the board is bowed, joint it with the bowed side up, that is, so both ends of the board are touching the bed. And watch that Bob Van Dyke video. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gee-dub Posted January 17, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 3 hours ago, thunder86 said: I watched Marc where he said to put the pressure on the outfeed table but like I said when I do this the rest of the board never gets touched and I'm unsure as to why. This can tell us some things. Let's assume the infeed and outfeed tables are reasonably coplaner and that the outfeed is even with Top-Dead-Center of the cutters. There is no need to joint a blank that is much larger than the part you plan to take out of it so, break your material down to an oversized blank first. That is; if you need a 32" long 5" wide board, don't start with a 71" long 7" wide board . . . make sense? If you're just testing grab some 30" to 40" blanks and let's move on As drzaius states, determine which way your board lays the flattest. If the board rocks like a rocking chair, flip it over. You will add difficulty (and generally frustration) if you try to joint a board with the convex side down. If the concavity is severe, say there is a 1/2" of gap when the two ends of the board are setting on the bench, there are a couple of methods of dealing with that which we can talk about later if required. Let's say the board is a little wonky and you are jointing it concave face down. If all the blah-blah up to this point is about right and you are applying pressure primarily to the material past the cutterhead and you then get the result described in the quote above we have a problem. While it is certainly possible to have the trailing part of the board go un-milled for a pass or two, if you don't start cutting the trailing end soon, either it is sticking up in the air like a squirrel tail or the outfeed is nose-diving. Look over some of the responses, orient your board as described and take a few whacks at it. Let us know how it goes. Here's my method more or less. I am standing a bit awkwardly to keep my butt out of the way of what I am trying to show. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown craftsman Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Try lowering the outfeed table.If you get snipe on the end of the board then raise it a tiny bit till its gone. Good luck Aj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunder86 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 This is what I get when I apply pressure on the outfeed table. It causes me to simply make a huge wedge. If the indeed is lower than the outfeed table how can the whole board get run threw the cutters? It just seems once the front end passes it tilts it up and the rest of the board will always no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tpt life Posted January 17, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 The infeed MUST be lower than the outfeed even if only by a few thousandths. The principle is that as you remove material the outfeed supports the cut area. Your last post makes me question if you understand this. No offense is intended if it was just worded that way. The following image is from Google. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunder86 Posted January 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 No its fine I have very little knowledge on woodworking. Looking at this picture though I believe my issue is I'm taking the board through the jointer to fast. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown craftsman Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Sorry I should have been more clear.The infeed table always need to be lower. Good pic C Shaffer. But sometimes the out feed table needs to be a tiny bit lower then the cutting circle of the knives.Or the wood will run into the tables lip and lift up up and away. If it's too low then you get a cut on the end of the board called snipe. Hope this helps. Aj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronn W Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Double check that the infeed and outfeed tables are in the same plane. Raise infeed table to the same height as the outfeed table and lay a straight edge across both. It almost sounds like either the outfeed table or infeed table is sloping away form your blades. That can be absolutely maddening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Dry Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 You really need to read all about setting up a jointer and checking it. If your outfeed table is too high in relation to the the cutter, then it would lift the back end of the board off the infeed table when you press the board down on the outfeed table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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