sjm1580 Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 I am in the process of finishing a Bolivian Walnut pecky table top and plan on using Arm R Seal and West System Epoxy for the voids. My question is would it be a good idea to treat the sanded table first with a coat or two of Arm R Seal and then start the epoxy process in order to protect the bare wood from getting inundated with epoxy? Thanks for the help! Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post estesbubba Posted February 8, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 ARS might cause problems with the epoxy plus you're going to have to sand after applying the epoxy. I would epoxy, sand, then finish. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHoleInOne Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Too many voids to use masking tape? -Ace- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjm1580 Posted February 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, AceHoleInOne said: Too many voids to use masking tape? -Ace- Yes, lots of voids so taping is pretty much out of the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Mike is correct, epoxy, sand, finish.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHoleInOne Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Is this your table, found it in another post. That doesn't look too bad. I would use the masking tape. Maybe a little time consuming, but well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisG-Canada Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Epoxy...sand...finish I've done this many times and it works great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjm1580 Posted February 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Yes, that's my 16 minutes ago, AceHoleInOne said: Did a google search on that wood. Whew, lot of VOIDS.......have you thought about doing a pour on bar top finish? Or maybe using a pore filler and only partially filling the voids, give it that rustic look? Or a piece of glass over top? -Ace- Is this your table, found it in another post. That doesn't look too bad. I would use the masking tape. Maybe a little time consuming, but well worth it. Is this your table, found it in another post. That doesn't look too bad. I would use the masking tape. Maybe a little time consuming, but well worth it. Yes, that's my baby! I am planning to use West #105 in combo with 207 which will give me a little more time to play with. I was planning to use syringes to apply a large portion of the epoxy thereby trying to limit the excess epoxy. I certainly could try and tape a lot of it, but the pecky is so pervasive that I will still be left with a lot of excess. 10 minutes ago, ChrisG-Canada said: Epoxy...sand...finish I've done this many times and it works great. How do you apply and does the excess leach into the wood pores and discolor or do you just sand away and proceed on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephThomas Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Epoxy, sand, finish. I did this recently, and the little amount that did get into surrounding pores didn't discolor or cause any problems...try to tape it off and limit the excess as much as possible though, as a large swath of filled pores would be obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnorris1369 Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 I did a table like this last year. I got some plexiglass and wax and used it on underside and masking tape. Worked out awesome for me. Still lots of clean up. But not as much as just tape I don't think. Hope this helps Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sjm1580 Posted February 9, 2017 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 OK. 60 yards of tape later I am ready to go starting tomorrow. Thanks for all the help! Steve 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewyo Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, sjm1580 said: OK. 60 yards of tape later I am ready to go starting tomorrow. Thanks for all the help! Steve Better put something underneath. Even if you taped the cracks on the underside the epoxy can drool right through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjm1580 Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 9 minutes ago, davewyo said: Better put something underneath. Even if you taped the cracks on the underside the epoxy can drool right through. Will do, thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Don't fill large or deep voids in one pour . Get the bottoms sealed up and then fill, maybe even in 2 more stages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 A little too late, but west systems makes a fairing filling. Its is basically a really fine sawdust you add to the epoxy. It makes it really easy to sand. Epoxy without the filler is hell on sand paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjm1580 Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 22 minutes ago, Mike. said: A little too late, but west systems makes a fairing filling. Its is basically a really fine sawdust you add to the epoxy. It makes it really easy to sand. Epoxy without the filler is hell on sand paper. Does it cure clear or have a color to it? If clear what number filler are you describing. Very interested in easier sanding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, sjm1580 said: Does it cure clear or have a color to it? If clear what number filler are you describing. Very interested in easier sanding! It turns the cured epoxy a bondo like color, but you can add dye to get any color you want. I use black dye or india ink. This one is easier to mix: https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=8404&engine=adwords&keyword=product_ad&gclid=Cj0KEQiAw_DEBRChnYiQ_562gsEBEiQA4Lcssqu7fbzFfMD3B0UZthha3QT1zLYtaPgE2TKZJDEbxqIaAjTf8P8HAQ This one is easier to sand: https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=8281&engine=adwords&keyword=product_ad&gclid=Cj0KEQiAw_DEBRChnYiQ_562gsEBEiQA4Lcssl_xZ3YgQn_b_a3yZThaJAcpnS2X59AOaB6e4_Q0QDIaAvEp8P8HAQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjm1580 Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mike. said: It turns the cured epoxy a bondo like color, but you can add dye to get any color you want. I use black dye or india ink. https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=8404&engine=adwords&keyword=product_ad&gclid=Cj0KEQiAw_DEBRChnYiQ_562gsEBEiQA4Lcssqu7fbzFfMD3B0UZthha3QT1zLYtaPgE2TKZJDEbxqIaAjTf8P8HAQ Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHoleInOne Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Why don't you just use bondo? It can be tinted. -Ace- However I recommend you do your entire finishing schedule to see how it looks, more importantly, the texture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, AceHoleInOne said: Why don't you just use bondo? It can be tinted. -Ace- Because I have a gallon of epoxy in my shop! But honestly, Bondo is probably just as good and a whole lot cheaper. I think woodworkers use epoxy because they see other guys using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisG-Canada Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Epoxy will seep down deep into any crack, etc. and stabilize/strengthen any weak areas in the wood. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 A carefully wielded torch will make bubbles rise and pop, CAREFULLY ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 A carefully wielded torch will make bubbles rise and pop, CAREFULLY ! One of those paint stripper heat guns works, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 3 hours ago, wtnhighlander said: One of those strippers works, too. Couldn't of said it better myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondhockey Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 26 minutes ago, Brendon_t said: Couldn't have worked it better myself Is that like photoshopping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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