Beechwood Chip Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 I wouldn't expect a brass screw to be equivalent to a steel screw. Brass is much softer. Unless the wood is soft, I'd pre-drill, then pre-screw with an identical steel screw, and use hand power to drive the brass screw. 10,000 of them would be a chore.If the wood isn't really hard, I might get away with pre-drilling a generous pilot hole and using a drill-driver instead of an impact driver. But I'd expect to strip several.I apologize if I'm stating the obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idfbts Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 I wouldn't expect a brass screw to be equivalent to a steel screw. Brass is much softer. Unless the wood is soft, I'd pre-drill, then pre-screw with an identical steel screw, and use hand power to drive the brass screw. 10,000 of them would be a chore.If the wood isn't really hard, I might get away with pre-drilling a generous pilot hole and using a drill-driver instead of an impact driver. But I'd expect to strip several.I apologize if I'm stating the obvious.Actually, the screw is going to be in the packaging, so it would be a matter of each buyer needing to set a handful with the product, not me setting 10,000 of them. I just want the screw in the packaging to be a good one. Yes, brass is softer, but some if this stuff is strips as if the screw were made of frozen butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgreenb Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Actually, the screw is going to be in the packaging, so it would be a matter of each buyer needing to set a handful with the product, not me setting 10,000 of them. I just want the screw in the packaging to be a good one. Yes, brass is softer, but some if this stuff is strips as if the screw were made of frozen butter. Just a thought - not sure what your product is, but if you're sending brass screws with it and letting the user deal with them, I can almost guarantee you'll be getting complaints because 99% of people don't know how to use brass screws, will screw (pun intended) it up, and then complain to you that you gave them a shoddy product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Be sure to include some specific instruction on installing the brass screws. Maybe even include a drill bit of the correct size because that can be critical in hard wood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Wright Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 I've used specialty hardware from Horton Brass and it was high quality. They sell #2 screws. Not cheap though http://www.horton-brasses.com/menu.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idfbts Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 After spending the day on this, I have 2 conclusions:Basically all the brass on the planet comes from Asia now, and making them in the US won't really change anything on that front.Making them here will provide for a nicer finish, detailing, and those sorts of possibilities, but otherwise there is not much to gain.Rather frustrating, but that's globalization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Z. Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Did you actually call Goulet? Their page says "any size from 0 to ⅜ and metrics from M2 through M10..." This page is actually the quote form for #2 bronze: http://www.oemfasteners.net/2sbctwsf.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idfbts Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Did you actually call Goulet? Their page says "any size from 0 to ⅜ and metrics from M2 through M10..." This page is actually the quote form for #2 bronze: http://www.oemfasteners.net/2sbctwsf.html I did, at length actually. I am waiting for a price quote. I didn't specifically ask where their brass comes from, but from other suppliers I contacted today, they all said the same thing: brass is from China/Taiwan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 I learned to get steel screws that match Brass screws. Run them in to thread the hole , then swap for the brass screw and you will have much fewer stripped or broken screws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 I suggest you follow Brusso's lead, and include a steel "thread cutter" screw in your packaging. Also including the correct pilot drill and instructions would rock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechwood Chip Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Did you actually call Goulet? Their page says "any size from 0 to ⅜ and metrics from M2 through M10..." This page is actually the quote form for #2 bronze: http://www.oemfasteners.net/2sbctwsf.htmlBronze?!? They used to make cannons out of bronze. Much harder than brass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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