bois Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 I have a potential customer that wants a large zebra wood table top. I found that zebra wood is harder to source and is very expensive which may price this piece out of budget. The client isn't wed to zebra but he wants contrasting straight grain. Does anyone know of a good or decent alternative species that might be easier to get or more reasonably priced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan S Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 I can't think of any hardwoods that are cheaper, infact the only species I can think of are all soft woods (Cedar, Douglas Fir, Southern Yellow Pine). What about veneer, or local species that has been rift-sawn and died? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onboard Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Bois, I don’t know if my contribution will make things worse for you or better, but for what it’s worth, here is some information. The first quote sounds like you may be glad that zebra wood is too expensive. I embedded the link to the articles in the “Quote #” labels. The second quote talks about woods that are similar to zebra wood and are even sold under that name. Of course, as you can see, it will take a bit of time to search on all those different species names. One thing I have heard, but can’t confirm, is that African Beli wood has a similar look to zebra wood. The only other thought I had, is an article I read in Fine WoodWorking’s “Finishing Wood” publication. On page 64 they have an article titled “Dyes and Stains Work Better Together”. Basically it’s saying how this combination will maximize popping the wood grain. If you can find a similar grained wood you may be able to increase the contrast of the light and dark areas dramatically as one sees in zebrawood. Quote #1. “Be warned that zebrawood may look like an amazing exotic wood BUT it smells like its name sake.. it is the absolute worst wood I have ever planed and smells like your toilet backed up. Aim to plane it just before you leave for the night and leave the window open to clear the "scent" out before you return.. good luck, Karen.” Quote #2. “Larry Frye, executive director of the Fine Hardwoods/American Walnut Association, has been researching zebrawood and the various woods that go by the trade names zebrano, all originating from African forests. Frye said that according to his sources. "several trees yield a wood that looks alike and is sold as 'zebrawood.' This is a common practice with tropical species, that started over 100 years ago. The trees are Brachystegia leonensis, Brachystegia eurycoma, Brachystegia nigerica, Brachystegia boehmii and Microberlinia brazzavillensis." Frye said that in Africa, the trees often had different common names in the different provinces: oakume and achit in Nigeria; meblo in the Ivory Coast; Zebrano in Gabon; Amouk in the Cameroons; and mjombo, mtondo, msasa, mafash, muputu, miombo, mienzi, molo, mtundo, mundu, and lohumbo in Tanganyika and Rhodesia. Frye added that the trees cut from both Brachystecia and Microberlinia are very similar and are both sold under the trade name zebrano, which leads some to speculate that the trees are really the same.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikepdarr Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Try this guy: www.exoticwoodsoftheworld.com I ordered 323' of bubinga at about $3 bd/ft. He will arrange shipping for you from Tennessee. He has bundles on his site and Ebay. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmac Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Quarter-sawn plywood -- Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onboard Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Quarter-sawn plywood -- Russ You’re killin’ me Russ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapid Roger Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Actually, plywood does look allot like zebra wood but, I don't think that it would be very easy to make a table top out of though. I made a vase, a pitcher and bowl out of plywood on my scroll saw. Rog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwatson Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 try quartersawn SYP --> http://discountwooddirect.com/images/1.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodart Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Why not try veneer with a solid edge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onboard Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 How about faux grain? If Harry Sherwood (ca. 1900) could roll quarter sawn oak grain onto pre-stained pine, I’m sure you could find a "rubber stamp" roller for Zebra wood grain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch02 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 I agree with everyone that finding something quartersawn is going to be your best bet and that softwoods will probably be easier to get that look with than hardwoods. Douglas Fir & SYP are the first softwoods that come to mind. In hardwoods, my first thought was QS Oak, but the ray fleck may be a turn off if the customer is reall looking for a zebrawood-like experience. Might QS Ash work? The butternut you're working with for the tool chest - does that contrast enough when quartersawn? Maybe take a look at QS Chestnut? I do think the plywood suggestion is interesting, but would be a huge PITA. Maybe LVL, which you could get twice as thick as plywood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mds2 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Maybe try Bocote. The price is pretty steep, but it would be easier to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenaissanceWW Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Have you thought about Teak? It is expensive but still cheaper than Zebrano. Vertical grain Teak looks very much like Zebra. If still too rich then a good rift sawn White Oak and some creative dye grain popping will enhance the contrast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Alot of people want exotics but get sticker shock even with veneer. There is always reconstituted veneer especially for zebra or ebony. They are affordable and look just as nice. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombuhl Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Hey Bois, I use zebrawood for small gift boxes and a very small table. Hard to handle that expense when much material is involved. I have used Bubinga and have appreciated its stabliilty. Wide range of contrast patterns, that seem to hold up even as the wood darkens with time. It is not inexpensive, but much cheaper than zebrawood. Wide boards are available which can be an advantage for tops and casework. I pay much more than $3/bd ft but consider it good value if you are willing to use exotics. It is heavy and bit hard on tooling. Have never had the courage to use hand planes on surfaces. Have had success using hand planes on edge profiles. Let us know what you and the client decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombuhl Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Not sure how appropriate zebrawood would be for a working table top. Seems sort of soft or mixed in its durability. For show top or occasional table might be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bois Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Thanks for all the tips. In the end, it turned out any kind of exotic was going to price this customer out of the market. A 4x4 solid table top with an apron is just a lot of material, and his budget wasn't going to cover it. In the end, he couldn't find any maker that could meet his budget and he decided to go another direction. Unfortunately these days this story seems to be more the norm than the exception. At least this guy was in the ballpark but I was still about 50% over his budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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