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#1 Pbmaster11

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 07:58 PM

The blue needs to attach to the red but I would like them to be detachable for moving. I am thinking to drop into into top and screwed to top with black caps.

MDF is the customers choice

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 08:02 AM

there are alot of ways to attach the top... you could dowl the peices into the top with out glue then screw some sort of cleat or figure 8 fastner on the back to secure the two together. You could use some type of KO fastner. if you want to go really crazy you could use a sliding dovetail into the top and then just use a cleat on the back. hope this helps

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 08:14 AM

If this is MDF then I'd use dowels and minifix.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 05:20 PM

minifix? and KO?

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 06:08 PM

Generally a hutch on top of something like a desk is just fastened from the back. Just make sure that the bottom edge of the top units are beefy with a 1x3 or similar. Then, from behind, put a metal bracket that screws into the top edge of the bottom unit and the bottom edge of the top unit. If the three top pieces are connected securely, then nothing will move on you.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 09:56 AM

View PostPbmaster11, on 09 February 2012 - 05:20 PM, said:

minifix? and KO?

With mdf I use minifix. Minifix are those KD dowels with the cam. Lately Ive been using dominos for stacked units. Stick a 50mm dominos in each corner and pin them from inside of the lower cabinet, this makes for a very clean install quick and easy. No hardware to buy and they are plenty strong.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 03:50 PM

View Postdwacker, on 10 February 2012 - 09:56 AM, said:

With mdf I use minifix. Minifix are those KD dowels with the cam. Lately Ive been using dominos for stacked units. Stick a 50mm dominos in each corner and pin them from inside of the lower cabinet, this makes for a very clean install quick and easy. No hardware to buy and they are plenty strong.

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I really like that domino idea it's simple and clean. Also nice to use the domino jointer where ever possible.

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Posted 12 February 2012 - 05:36 PM

pocket screws with caps?

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 09:37 AM

View PostPbmaster11, on 12 February 2012 - 05:36 PM, said:

pocket screws with caps?

Not in mdf. If you want to avoid specialty tools or fasteners. You can just dowel it and fasten the top to the wall. They should be fastened to the wall with EQ cables anyways.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 09:17 AM

View Postdwacker, on 13 February 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

Not in mdf. If you want to avoid specialty tools or fasteners. You can just dowel it and fasten the top to the wall. They should be fastened to the wall with EQ cables anyways.

Don

EQ cables? not a term I am familiar with. I understand the need to prevent tipping on a upper case.
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 09:37 AM

View Postwdwerker, on 14 February 2012 - 09:17 AM, said:

EQ cables? not a term I am familiar with. I understand the need to prevent tipping on a upper case.

EQ cables are earthquake cables. Any frestanding cabinetry you install or sell over 6 ft should include EQ fasteners or simple to follow instuctions explainging how to fasten to the wall. FEMA code is not enforced in residential applications unless the cabinetry is installed by a "professional". Either way dowels and cheap eq cables are a very easy solution to the op's origonal question.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 12:43 PM

View PostJMadson Custom Wood, on 09 February 2012 - 06:08 PM, said:

Generally a hutch on top of something like a desk is just fastened from the back. Just make sure that the bottom edge of the top units are beefy with a 1x3 or similar. Then, from behind, put a metal bracket that screws into the top edge of the bottom unit and the bottom edge of the top unit. If the three top pieces are connected securely, then nothing will move on you.

+1, the top isn't going anywhere once it is placed on top of the base. You only need a simple bracket on the back to secure them together. And you have a left and a right side which will keep the whole top unit even more secure.




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