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18 hours ago, wtnhighlander said:
I'd go with end grain. For no particular reason, other than its less work. In fact, a solid plank is even better.
In what way would end grain be even remotely easier?
You could get that board from a single glue up. End grain you'll need at least 2 and the second being much more intensive.
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31 minutes ago, K Cooper said:
I never allow myself to even touch Ebony, much less work with it. Thanks for the offer though!
Blah blah blah, you're old and can't see good.
Why every not? It polishes up beautifully.
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On 6/1/2019 at 9:10 PM, K Cooper said:
It’s the Maloof low back chair and instructions and videos from both Marc and Charles Brock use a stepped drill bit for the screws that is a bit off from conventional dowels. Fortunately for them and unfortunately for me, they used walnut with ebony plugs and I am using cherry and don’t really want the dark contrast that end grain provides. I finally got in touch with my turner friend that has been out of town and he said, no way, so end grain it will be!
I can send you some Ebony.
Edit: replied too early .... Mick's got you!
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Pfew. We barely made it.
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That's a great saw neighbor. I'm in Simi Valley. I'm a huge fan of cast iron extension wings like that.
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Welcome to the forum. Where in Cali are you located?
A good place to start tool shopping is with the end result. What you plan to build can help with the decision of the right tool.
I like the euro slider idea, saw stops also have a great following. 5hp is a big motor and honestly, I don't think hobbyists need them. I have a Delta unisaw 3hp baldor motor and I cannot bog it down with a thick blade and fast feed. If you're pushing very hard wood through often, a sharp and clean blade will do you great
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3 hours ago, Mark J said:
I'm kind of currious why the epoxy needs polishing? I thought it would be pretty smooth when poured. Did it get scratched during other parts of the construction?
Wood isn't finish ready off the saw, epoxy isn't furniture ready from the pour unless you're pouring in a clean room, with heated resin on a vibrating table.
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6 hours ago, Embarrassed Newbie said:
, but I saw a couple of youtubers who really like Osmo on epoxy.
Take it with a grain of salt please. There are some literal morons producing how to's on YouTube.
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I agree with the handle placement. Also solid on the reduced cutters. I don't need a finish ready surface but I would consider dropping money like that on a spiral head if I worked with a lot of figured and nasty grain. There has to be a decrease in how it handles the tasks you want those carbide inserts for.
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1 minute ago, ask-anton said:
I'm not sure if I worded this correctly, I'm not trying to id the wood. The slab is Guanacaste; table legs is an example of the design I'm planing on making, and I was wondering which woods would be reliable in this frame design.
The joints are all just bridle joints. Most woods in my opinion would be strong enough. I'm always partial to hardwoods and honestly, the base will make or break the whole piece. IMHO, if you're putting it on Douglas fir legs, it's broken. Not for the structural integrity, but the athletic.
Either dark tones and straight grain or a contrasting wood like red jatoba or even carefully color matched Maple. The base you linked for inspiration is beautiful and should be relatively easy to execute given proper care is given to setup of the cuts in a few critical cuts.
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6 minutes ago, ask-anton said:
Thank you, Byrdie. I'll call to see if there are some stores which carry Jatoba near me. I like that base a lot too, simplicity of the design is what appeals to me, as well as ability to clean under the table with ease.
I think the red heughs of jatoba would be fantastic under there.
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10 hours ago, higtron said:
hi I'm Steve hey do you drink beer, finally we had found common ground we've been best friends for 50 yrs.
I could hang out with Steve, but no Chad's.
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9 hours ago, Builder said:
It's not a pre-made kit, but I have been looking at those metal brackets you're talking about. The original plan wasn't to have any knee bracing with how the beam is set in the a frame fulcrum -- I'm not sure there are long enough metal plates available to stretch from beam to leg how I have it. That said, you make an excellent point about putting it all together before worrying about issues that might not exist after a few steps are completed
Now that makes much much more sense to me.
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Did your set not come with a few flat metal triangles with holes in them?
I've owned 3 sets. All had them to triangulate the corner.
But seriously, finish putting it together.. we don't dovetail a drawer then test for racking before the bottom has been fit. Of course it's not solid yet, the stiffening aspect hasn't been installed yet! Take the design to completion and make sure there's an issue before trying to fix an issue the designers very likely took care of, as it's a kids toy...
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It looks like there is more to assemble being the slide from nowhere, I would have it totally put together and check it out. Chances are it was designed right, just gotta finish. It's very easy to strengthen later like coop said above.
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Shane, could you screenshot you cut/ glue up sheet from cb ? I'd like to have that in my file. I've got dozens stored so far.
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On 5/1/2019 at 8:17 PM, drzaius said:
GG tape is very good stuff. It's everything that duct tape should be but isn't.
Does it tear clean? That's always my #1 gripe with duct tape
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On 4/20/2019 at 8:47 PM, bleedinblue said:
I thought about filling the pores of the top, and I suppose theres no reason I can't do so at some point.
Correct! If in the next while you realize you want it filled, you could have it done in a weekend easily! I'm thinking that if I every flatten my bench again, I will probably fill the pores. Ash pores aren't quite as bad as oak but still, there is a lot of grime that get caught in there.
May even try a black fill. Turn it into a bumblebee bench!
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2 hours ago, Spanky said:
After reading all this, I think I will keep my dog out of this race.
Oh come on. I'm sure you could add to the overall discussion, Or hilarity. Dealers choice.
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I was expecting Gorilla Glue #4 discussion. I was wrong.
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2 hours ago, drzaius said:
it's possible to have some good discussion without all the acrimony that sometimes comes out.
Agreed, though depends on the players, and sometimes, the acrimony is really Really entertaining ..
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15 hours ago, drzaius said:Okay, let's look at a top that is make of 3 pieces of lumber, all properly dried, milled & glued up. When moisture content changes, as with the seasons, the wood moves. But wood does not move in a perfectly linear fashion throughout the board. What will happen is that the board will twist, cup, or curve slightly. With only 3 boards in the top, that's going to mean the top is going to go out of flat.
Our next top is made of a series of 3/4 boards all glued up to give us that same size & thickness top. Then we get some seasonal moisture changes and the accompanying movement. But in this case, each small board is moving in its own way, and because each board is just a small part of the whole, those movements will work to cancel each other out. One board tries to curve a little to the left, while the other attempts a little curve to the right, and so on. The law of averages sees to it that the overall deviation from flat will be minimized.
Of course, there are workbench tops all over the place that stay flat, but there are also many that just don't. My goal was to maximize my chances of getting a top that would stay flat, so I went the route of lots of milling & gluing.
There are other factors as well. I enjoy milling and I enjoy glue ups. And last, but not least, 4/4 maple was $1.90/bf vs $6.50/bf for 12/4 maple. But the overriding goal was to get a good, heavy, stable top.
My intent was not to claim my way is best, but to express a view that while not popular, presents viable alternate choices for someone who is planning a bench build.
Not bad at all. I didn't do any butt joints, but I did glue up a few narrow pieces that were less than the 4" I wanted for the top.
Good points.
It sounds to me that we've figured out that there really isn't a superior way. What is important to Ross and Gdub may not be as important to Nuts and I.
Comes down to preference and what's important to you.
I appreciate the discussion even though nobody got super pissed : )
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16 hours ago, Chestnut said:
So now that we're all worked up....
. What is the consensus on shorts. If some of the lamination in the top are 2 shorter boards ended together is that bad? In my mind i can't see how it would make a difference especially if they have a floating tenon or 2 between them.
I'm asking for a friend that may or may not have a lot of 8/4 cherry shorts they don't know what to do with
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Honestly, I about went with scarf joined shorts when I about ran out of material. I'd have zero issue.
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36 minutes ago, drzaius said:
Not at all. To each their own. I just wanted to make clear my rationale & to inform others of the implications of the lumber choices made. I know sometimes I come off as being preachy, but that's not my intention at all. I think I get it from my dad, who was the master lecturer of all time
I'm not trying to start crap or call anyone out. I just can't figure out why people would recommend more glue ups, more milling, more room for error and use thinner lumber when Both are presumably equally dry, both being face glued giving edge grain show faces.
I've seen many threads over the years when someone asks about gluing together 845, 4/4 boards for a top and everyone tells them to get thicker lumber. Now, someone has the option and is told to go thin and I haven't heard a reason that isn't the same with both..
If the general idea is that the 3.5" thick dressed lumber will move substantially More, than 1.5" in a glue up, enough to warp your whole thing, while also acknowledging that most people will flatten their bench regardless of thickness of laminations, And knowing it's so little of an issue that some leave it....., I can't get on board. I'm confused honestly and trying to follow the train of thought.
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I know I'm loonie but couldn't wrap my brain around it