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  1. The Eclipse type jig certainly is the one to own when you begin in sharpening. I did'nt use it when I was a beginner, but now I can't do without it. I learned to sharpen free hand using Mike Dunbar's technique (sand papers of several grits glued up onto a flat surface) That technique is simple, efficient, fast, clean and inexpensive and it is a good method to start with. But it is evern more efficient with jigs. I can see two reasons to use a jig: 1- You can achieve a perfect bevel and edge every time,, you never miss a sharpening, whatever abrasive you may use (sand paper, or water sones, oil stones diamond stones etc.) and whatever may be your habits ( bevel angle values, secondary bevel, radiused edges etc.) 2- Since the bevel remains consistent,,through the sharpening process, you should only have to shape the bevel onc for all . Iand you should hardly have to put thoses blades on the Tormek once or twice in a decade...That saves a lot of time and a lot of wear. Then Which type of guide is better ? Eclipse or Veritas MK2 ? In fact I do own and use both of them. The Eclipse is inexpensive, accurate, and faster to set up than the MK2,. It fits most of the common blades, especially chisel and plane blades, the blades you sharpen the most frequently. I use it all the time. On the other side the MK2 is more versatile : you can hold almost any blades you can find, including thick, tapered, short , or skewed blades. The MK2.has another plus; that may be important for some people but not for me. For a given bevel angle, the blade projection on the MK2 :remains the same, whatever the blade thickness may be. The reason for that is that The MK2 always registers against the upper face of the blade, not the under face. . In the case of the Eclipse , only narrow blades register that way, Wide blades (palne blades) register through their under face, thus the blade projection is increased when the blade thickness is increased.. But in fact this is not a concern for me. The corrections for thick blades are minimal and bevel value accuracy doesn't make as much sense as angle conssistency. If I have to sharpen a blade to an accurate angle value, I tune the blade projection with a "Bevel Box" (the kind of inexpensive digital device than measures angles to a tenth of a degree) . . Another minus for the Eclipse jig, is that indeed you will have to slightly a modify it with a file , as shown in the video by Deneb Puchalski. In fact on my Eclipse, you could probably skip two of the three modifications that are shown in the video . I only use to enlarge the notch for narrow blades, to allow the jig to hold more sorts of chisels (thicker blades, tapered faces, un-parallel sides.and the like) . I never find it necessary to file either the top surface (the one for wider blades) nor the lower angle (as I don't own blades with high bevel angles) The MK2 comes with an sophisticated device jig to set the correct blade projection.It<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<scathat You have to mount it into a sliding dove-tail at the front edge of the jig. It is very accurate and seems to fit al the possibles cases for a blade. But I find it complicated to use: you have to put it on and apart at each use, you have to choose the proper scale beetweel several, and to make sure the blade doesn't contact the steel stop fitted on the device. . In fact for both Eclipse and MK2 jig, I use the same home made wooden jig for quick and consistent settings of bevel angles. , One side Of the wwoden jig is for chisel blades , the other for plane blades,. At one end .I screwed on a piece of steel that can be used as a screw driver to fasten the Eclipse screw. .