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  1. The Eclipse type jig certainly is the one to own when you begin in  sharpening.

    I did'nt use it when  I was a beginner,  but now I can't do without it.  I learned to sharpen free hand  using  Mike Dunbar's technique (sand papers of several grits glued up onto a flat  surface) That   technique is simple, efficient,  fast, clean  and inexpensive and it is a good method to start with. But it is evern more efficient with jigs.


    I can see two reasons to use a jig:

    1- You can achieve a perfect bevel and edge every time,, you never miss a sharpening,  whatever abrasive  you  may use (sand paper, or water sones, oil stones diamond stones  etc.) and whatever may be your habits   ( bevel angle values,   secondary bevel, radiused edges etc.)

    2- Since the bevel   remains consistent,,through the sharpening process, you should only have to shape the bevel onc for all . Iand you should hardly have to put thoses blades on the Tormek once or twice in a decade...That saves a lot of time and a lot of wear.


    Then Which type of guide is better ?  Eclipse  or Veritas MK2 ?

    In fact I do own  and use  both of them.


    The Eclipse is  inexpensive, accurate, and faster to set up  than the MK2,. It fits  most of the common  blades, especially chisel and plane blades, the blades you sharpen the most frequently. 

    I use it all the time.


    On the other side the MK2 is more versatile : you can hold  almost any  blades you can find, including  thick, tapered, short , or skewed blades.

    The  MK2.has another plus; that may be important for some people but not for me.   For a given bevel angle, the blade projection on the MK2 :remains the same,  whatever the blade thickness may be. The reason for that is that The MK2 always registers against the upper  face of the blade, not the under face. . In the case of the Eclipse , only  narrow blades register that way, Wide blades (palne blades)  register through their under face, thus  the blade projection is increased when the blade thickness is increased..

    But in fact this is not a concern for me. The  corrections for thick blades are minimal and bevel value  accuracy doesn't make as much sense as angle conssistency. If  I have to sharpen a blade to an accurate angle value, I tune the blade projection with  a "Bevel Box" (the kind of  inexpensive digital device than measures angles to a tenth of a degree) .


    Another minus for the Eclipse jig, is that indeed you will have to slightly  a modify it  with a file ,  as shown in the video by  Deneb Puchalski. In fact on my Eclipse, you could probably skip two  of the  three  modifications that are shown in the video .   I only use to enlarge    the notch for narrow blades, to allow  the jig to hold  more sorts of chisels (thicker blades,  tapered faces, un-parallel  sides.and the like) . I never find it necessary to file either the top surface (the one for wider blades) nor the  lower angle (as  I don't own blades with high bevel angles)


    The MK2  comes with an sophisticated device  jig to set the correct blade

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    In fact for both Eclipse and MK2 jig, I use the same home made wooden jig  for quick and consistent settings of  bevel angles. , One side Of the wwoden jig is  for chisel blades , the other for plane blades,. At one end .I screwed on a  piece of steel  that can be used as a screw driver to fasten the Eclipse screw.