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  1. Sliding table saws still need jigs to cut small parts or to make accurate odd cuts. No different than for a traditional saw. If you're going to take advantage of the sliding table, you'll have to approach your jig making differently.

    Feel free to post your jigs.

    Sliders are really good at handling sheet goods. But small parts on a stock machine, not so much. To address this, one of the first jigs you'd want to have is a Fritz & Franz. These are handy for cutting small parts, either cross-cut or ripping.

    You can get as simple or as fancy as you'd like. In the playlist below, I use a simple Fritz & Franz to make a more elaborate one.

     

  2. I thought it might be nice to go through some of differences between the two types of saws. Trying to be objective, I'd say that if you have limited budget or limited space, a traditional table saw would be more suitable (although small sliders are available). If you are working with larger pieces that are heavy or awkward, then a slider would be to your advantage (but you can easily do small pieces on a slider with the proper jig).

    A sliding table is essentially a built-in sled.

    Safety is inherently better in a slider, as long as you use it as a slider. You'll need 220v for a slider.

    This is just the high points. If you want a deeper dive, then you can check out: 

     

  3. 21 hours ago, Mick S said:

    FWIW, the west coast office is in Sacramento, so your shipping would be a little less I would think. 
    Felder/Hammer routinely has a sale at the end of the year and again in July or August. It just ended. The K3 (same saw without the shaper) was on sale for $5895 plus accessories and shipping. It’s now north of $8000 for the saw alone. 

    Mine came through their Delaware office, which is about 3 hours or so up the road. It appears they do monthly containers out of Europe. You won't end up with an exact delivery date until it's handed off to the trucking company and even that is iffy. I needed lift-gate service and it barely fit the lift. I'm not sure how a longer machine would have been delivered.

  4. 8 hours ago, treesner said:

    What’s the cost on it and shipping? 

     

    8 hours ago, treesner said:

    How does it work with small pieces? I use my sled all the time for cutting small things down, does the blade come right up to the slide fence, is it awkward to stand in that area for small cuts? 

     

    The saw, with a lot of options and accessories: 2meter sliding table, dado arbor, scoring blade, outrigger with preset angles, upgraded shaper fence, fine-adjust rip fence, 3 blades, cleaner, etc.  was just north of 10K. If you went with just a 2meter slider (no shaper), it's going to be about $2,500 or so less. Includes shipping.

    To cut smaller pieces, you use a jig called a "Fritz & Franz" which has a runner so it sits in the slot in the sliding table. You push it against the miter fence.  Photo of my first one attached and that's what I used to cut the small piece. I'm making a second jig with stops, sandpaper faces and measuring tape. The first project video of the new one should be out this weekend.

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  5. On 9/12/2020 at 9:51 AM, Mick S said:

    I'm curious to get your impressions on using a slider vs table saw. I'm transitioning that direction. I have a SawStop PCS 3HP. I looked hard at the K3 but ultimately opted for the SCM Minimax SC 4 Elite, due here in December.

     

    Hey Mick,

    That's a nice looking saw. You must have a bigger shop. The Hammer pretty much takes up most of a garage bay. I'm sure you'll love using it. I have video coming out today that a comparison between the two different styles, but it's more features than usage. The goal of my YouTube channel is to showcase sliding table saws and their benefits, and disadvantages.

    I don't know about you, but I kinda stumbled onto a slider and finding info took some scrounging.

    I can say that after having the Hammer for just 6 weeks, I'd never want to go back to a traditional saw. I had a pile of rough cut timber that needed straight line ripping that was waiting for my saw to arrive. I tried to run some of it through my band saw and even though I had help, it wasn't much fun. On the slider by myself, it was cake.

    Keep in touch. I'd be interested in hearing about your adventures with the Minimax.

    Bill

     

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    12 hours ago, Coop said:

    Just out of curiosity, sight unseen other than someone else’s video, what made you choose the slider? 

    There were a couple of things about a slider that appealed to me. First is safety. I never felt comfortable reaching over the blade when ripping on a traditional saw. Even doing cross-cuts, once you start working with widths over 13 or so inches or long heavy boards, it's a struggle to rip or crosscut. Now I stand/walk well to the left of the blade and even the heaviest pieces glide through the blade.

    On a slider, your work can be fixed to the table and you can concentrate on the cut. It's basically a built in sled, so you don't need to make a sled to do straight line rips to get a clean edge, leg tapers or cross cuts. The attached photo is a piece I cut using a Fritz & Franz jig (one of the few you would need on a slider) and my hands were never closer than 6".

    I'll probably end up making a sled to do Kumiko work. It is possible to use a slider like a traditional table saw and I'm sure there will be occasions that work on the right side of the blade.

    I have a 2-meter slider which allows me to cut to over 6' of material. I wish I had the space to go bigger.

    I'll be doing a tool review in a couple months. There are things I love and things I don't. But to get the perfect saw, I'd probably have to spend 5-10 times a much.

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  7. About a year ago I finally got tired of the limitations of my Craftsman contractors saw. After looking at the offerings from the the usual suspects in the US, I had decided on a SawStop and had selected all options I wanted. All I had to do was wait for tax refund/work bonus season in the Spring. In the meantime, a video I had seen out of Germany, in German, of a guy who had a saw with a moving section next to the blade kept floating back from a memory. It took a while to find more videos and information, but once I did, I was really intrigued. I eventually ended up at the Felder Group's website. A few weeks later, I had a Hammer B3 on order. Covid delayed delivery for a month and half and it finally arrived at the end of July. While the saw's not perfect, I think I'm going to enjoy it more than the SawStop (a fine piece of equipment).

    More info in this YouTube playlist: 

      

    I think it's a shame that sliding table saws aren't well known in the US. But since they are mostly a custom ordered machine, you're not going to see one on display at Woodcraft. If you're interested, take a look.

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  8. I have purchased four Laguna tools, is this order: 1412 band-saw, 8" parallelogram joiner, 19-38 drum sander and 20" planer. I've been happy with all of them and customer service has been good.

    China is not Taiwan and Taiwan isn't China. These names are no more interchangeable than Canada and USA.

    Geetech, a Taiwanese company, manufactures most of the top consumer brands of consumer machines, as shown by this page: http://www.geetech.com.tw/index.php/en/strategic-partenrship   My 8" Laguna joiner came with a Baileigh manual.

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  9. 3 hours ago, Chip Sawdust said:

    The hour meter install by the way, looks really "sano" (an expression we used to use when I worked on cars meaning looks nice).

    Thansk, I got lucky that there was a punch out threaded pipe fitting in the top of the power box.

  10. The manual that came with my Laguna 20” planer talks about periodic lubrication based on hours used (shown below). So I decided to add an Hour Meter as I’d never correctly estimate/remember how much time the machine has been run. This can easily be done with at least 1 Grizzly, Powermatic and a lot of Jets planers. 

    I posted a video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/S0mO6SJ8AQM

    Lubrication Schedule Repeat at the intervals indicated

    Eight (8) Hours:
    - Feed Roller Bushings at the Head Screws – Top of the machine
    = Use a machine way oil like https://tinyurl.com/y9z8hvyc or ISO 68 Equivalent.
    = 2-4 drops into the hole at the top of the 4 head screws

    Twenty-Five Hundred (2500) Hours:
    -Gearbox – Drain and fill plugs on the gearbox
    = Drain and fill the gearbox with 80-90 wt gear oil like the following or equivalent
    = https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NWWIV7W
    = https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XC77795

    Forty (40) Hours:
    - Columns
    = Use a machine way oil like https://tinyurl.com/y9z8hvyc or ISO 68 Equivalent.

    - Leadscrews
    = Use an NLGI#2 grease like the following or equivalent
    = https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CQ01SS/
    = https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N191WZE/

    One Hundred Sixty (160) Hours:
    - Worm Gear – At the top of the post near the crank handle for raising and lowering the table.
    = Use the same NLGI#2 grease listed above for the leadscrews

    - Chains – Roller drive chains and table lift chains
    = Use the same NLGI#2 grease listed above

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  11. I had a pair of swimmer's ear plugs made a while back for riding my motorcycle and use these. Works very well. Cost me about $100. Probably the same thing as the custom shooting plugs mentioned earlier.

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