many thanks -- that was where i was pointed when i found out that formbys had been acquired by minwax (aside: the customer service rep i spoke with at minwax said they have no plans to reissue the formbys recipe as a minwax product -- they are retiring it) -- i tried the minwax tung oil and had issues -- in the past with formbys on tabletops, desktops followed by a coat or two of johnsons paste wax -- never had a problem with water/moisture stains -- but after using the minwax on a couple of standing dog feeders i made --i had to re-finish the top of one after 2 weeks due to the water stains