rodger. Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Long story short, I bought this band saw last year and it never made it to my shop. I ended up cancelling the order and getting a Kapex instead, which I love.Anyway, my small shop has been reorganized and I may be able to get this band saw in the space now. Was looking for any reviews or opinions on this saw, or even the Laguna in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 I have two Laguna bandsaws and I love both. One is the 1412. I dont ask very much of it as I use it for curves and small stuff but it is a nice machine. Only real negative is dust collection is no good but that is true of most bandsaws. I had terrible experience with a Laguna bandsaw but they took it back and gave me nothing but amazing service. That is why I stuck with them and bought two more of their saws. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strasberry Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 I love my 1412. There are a couple downsides that I wish were better but for the most part does a very good job. I resaw 6 - 8" all the time. easy to use, blade change is easy, fence is solid. To me the one thing I wish, would be to go back to bearings instead of the nylon guides! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 My only issue with the 1412 is the table leveler. I had to get it replaced under warranty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 FWIW, I'm very happy with my 1412. It's my first bandsaw, so I don't have much to compare it to, but it's capably done everything I've asked it to.I've seen ads for the new BX, which looks like a 1412 with a disc brake - if the prices were close, that might be worth the upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wouldwurker Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) I have the 1412 and like it. It was my first bandsaw, and as such the ceramic guides are not particularly intuitive. I did have to call regarding one of the cast wheels. as it was not polished after being stamped, or whatever it is they do. Sent a photo and a new wheel showed up 2 days later. Skip the light, get the mobile base Edited December 9, 2015 by vinnyjojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strasberry Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 I have the 1412 and like it. It was my first bandsaw, and as such the ceramic guides are not particularly intuitive. I did have to call regarding one of the cast wheels. as it was not polished after being stamped, or whatever it is they do. Sent a photo and a new wheel showed up 2 days later. Skip the light, get the mobile base I agree! skip the light and get the base! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) If you get the mobility kit, install it during the assembly of the saw (would be extra work to install after the fact - you need access to the underside of the closed stand). Edited December 9, 2015 by sjk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 I love my 1412. There are a couple downsides that I wish were better but for the most part does a very good job. I resaw 6 - 8" all the time. easy to use, blade change is easy, fence is solid. To me the one thing I wish, would be to go back to bearings instead of the nylon guides! You prefer bearings over the ceramic guides?? I think the ceramic guides are part of what makes the Laguna saws so good. What dont you like about them? Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 I like the ceramic guides. Screw the base, get the light. A brake would be nice.And Pug...c'mon man...stop waffling.Do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N00b-in-training Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 You prefer bearings over the ceramic guides?? I think the ceramic guides are part of what makes the Laguna saws so good. What dont you like about them? Sent from my SGH-I337M using TapatalkMy ceramic guides fell out after just a couple of uses. Had to glue them back in with gorilla glue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 My ceramic guides fell out after just a couple of uses. Had to glue them back in with gorilla glue. And? How do they work since you glued them back in? Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgreenb Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 What are the advantages of the ceramic guides? I never really understood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkdiamond Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 I have had a 1412 for almost 2 years and I have no regrets. I normally run a 1/2" Woodslicer, but I have also used a 1/4" for tight curves and 3/4" Resaw King for resawing and the saw has never had any issues. I have found the dust collection to be very good considering the 4" dust port is right below the table. I have the mobility kit, which I would recommend, I didn't get the light because it is located in an awkward place where it is very easy to hit your head on it. I haven't had any issues with the ceramic guides, which makes the saw much faster to set-up (in-my-opinion). I can normally swap a blade in less than 5 minutes. Great saw at a great value! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strasberry Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 You prefer bearings over the ceramic guides?? I think the ceramic guides are part of what makes the Laguna saws so good. What dont you like about them? Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk I like the ceramic guides. Screw the base, get the light. A brake would be nice.And Pug...c'mon man...stop waffling.Do it. They work fine its just that I'm old school and not used to them. They are growing on me. I think that getting them adjusted correctly is not as easy and the biggest thing is trying to get my mind around the idea that something that small and light can stand up to the use/abuse like steel could. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 biggest thing is trying to get my mind around the idea that something that small and light can stand up to the use/abuse like steel could. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalkthink ceramic breaks. It takes a Long time of very intense heat and pressure to ware the brakes down. Where as steel gets softer when heated be friction, ceramic hardens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 I have had the 1412 for almost a year now. It is my first bandsaw so I can't really compare but I am really happy with it. Watching the video on their website about the assembly and set up really helped over the manual, I think it was about an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroDave Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 I need to see if they have a retrofit to add the brake they have on their latest version ;) love mine but then again I know no different as its my first. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wouldwurker Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I have had the 1412 for almost a year now. It is my first bandsaw so I can't really compare but I am really happy with it. Watching the video on their website about the assembly and set up really helped over the manual, I think it was about an hour. still can't find that 1412 vid. Do you have a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Vinny, if you go to their home page, http://www.lagunatools.com scan all the way to the bottom of that page, in the column on the left it says videos. It's in the same column as "about us" and "contact us" is in. Click on Videos, then when you get to that page if you scan down you will start to see a whole library of videos they offer, the ones for the 1412 are first on the list. you can watch it all in one or in segments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I've had 3 different 14 inch bandsaws. The 1412 is the best of the 3 I've had. I had the Rikon 10-325, a Grizzly G1108. There are some nitpick items with 1412. I recently got the chance to dive into the setup and tuning of a Laguna 14SUV. It is a massive pain in the ass to make adjustments and overall I'm not impressed with the ability to make any changes on that saw with any sort of ease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgreenb Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 I've had 3 different 14 inch bandsaws. The 1412 is the best of the 3 I've had. I had the Rikon 10-325, a Grizzly G1108. There are some nitpick items with 1412. I recently got the chance to dive into the setup and tuning of a Laguna 14SUV. It is a massive pain in the ass to make adjustments and overall I'm not impressed with the ability to make any changes on that saw with any sort of ease. This was one of the reasons I went with the PM1500 over the Laguna SUV (was looking at 3HP models). Seemed like the reviews were very iffy on the SUV, and a lot of people specifically referenced the difficulty of tuning and setup. Granted I haven't even gotten my PM1500 off the damn pallet yet, but it seems like setup will be pretty straightforward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N00b-in-training Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 And? How do they work since you glued them back in? Sent from my SGH-I337M using TapatalkThey are doing ok. I certainly think that bearings would be better but the ceramic guides are not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 They are doing ok. I certainly think that bearings would be better but the ceramic guides are not bad. Ive owned bandsaws with both. Ceramic hands down is better. Easy to set up, doesnt get hot so you can keep them almost touching the blade which is awesome. Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N00b-in-training Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 I spoke too soon! Was messing around last night in the shop and another guide popped out when i bumped it while changing a blade, third time. Looks like a call to Laguna is in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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