toddclippinger Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I have seen the SawStop demonstration with the hotdog a dozen times. But I always felt that it was done under premium conditions to ensure that it worked properly with optimal results. At several of the demonstrations I had questioned the demonstrators about what would happen if someone was wearing a glove and it got caught in the blade. I requested that they place the hotdog in a glove so we could see the results. My request was always denied and I was always told, “You shouldn’t wear gloves at the table saw.” Well, I live in the real world where other contractors are on my equipment, we work in extremely harsh conditions, and I can’t keep control of everyone every time they use the table saw. So, even though it is unsafe, contractors wear their gloves at the table saw all the time. That is just reality. My local cabinet hardware supplier, A&H Turf, recently became an authorized SawStop dealer and so I made the request to them and they took me up on it. This video shows how far a SawStop will drag the glove into the machine before it kicks off. I hope you enjoy my version of the SawStop test. Your friend in the shop, Todd A. Clippinger Let your work be your signature. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Interesting. Sawstop debates are a guilty pleasure. I love and hate them at the same time Well in the real world people drive drunk so lets just get rid of seat belts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddclippinger Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just now, Mike. said: Interesting. Sawstop debates are a guilty pleasure. I love and hate them at the same time Well in the real world people drive drunk so lets just get rid of seat belts. Dang Mike, you and I are completely inline with our opinions and you really nailed it with the analogy. Well stated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddclippinger Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just now, Mike. said: Total click bait Todd! Based on your description I assumed the results were a disaster.... I will play nice and not spoil it for everyone else.... I admit that I did use a provocative title;) But the truth is that it was a genuine question and doubt that I had about the saw. That is the first time, ever that anybody would perform the SawStop test as I had requested. So I got the answer in this demonstration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Excellent video. Thanks for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddclippinger Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, drzaius said: Excellent video. Thanks for that. Thanks! I tried to add some entertainment value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janello Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 That's all fine and dandy, but what happens if your scarf that's wrapped around your neck 3 times falls in the blade? I can't watch every 6 year old that works in my shop. I don't own a SS but admittedly, that's impressive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddclippinger Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Janello said: That's all fine and dandy, but what happens if your scarf that's wrapped around your neck 3 times falls in the blade? I can't watch every 6 year old that works in my shop. I guess that I will have to go back and ask them to do the demonstration with a scarf wrapped around their neck. Stay tuned for the next SawStop Demo video! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just now, toddclippinger said: Thanks! I tried to add some entertainment value. There certainly was that. But seriously, I've often wondered how the test would go with gloves. I think the no-gloves rule is a little dated though. I wear those tight fitting gloves with the nitrile palms & fingers sometimes when using the table saw. With them I have much better grip, they greatly reduce the sliver factor, and with the snug fit there's no loose fabric to easily get caught in the machinery. Just now, toddclippinger said: I guess that I will have to go back and ask them to do the demonstration with a scarf wrapped around their neck. Stay tuned for the next SawStop Demo video! Well, the scarf will pull you head down to the spinning blade but as soon as your nose touches it, you'll be OK. Man, that'd be a trip! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddclippinger Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, drzaius said: There certainly was that. But seriously, I've often wondered how the test would go with gloves. I think the no-gloves rule is a little dated though. I wear those tight fitting gloves with the nitrile palms & fingers sometimes when using the table saw. With them I have much better grip, they greatly reduce the sliver factor, and with the snug fit there's no loose fabric to easily get caught in the machinery. A friend of mine was wearing gloves, just like the one we used in the demonstration and his saw blade grabbed it and dragged his hand into the machine cutting off 3 fingers and damaging a 4th. That was why I wanted to know what would happen if he had a SawStop. It seems taboo to bring up the topic of gloves at the table saw but the reality is that it is commonly done in the trades. I simply wanted an answer to this question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chestnut Posted February 25, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 34 minutes ago, Mike. said: Interesting. Sawstop debates are a guilty pleasure. I love and hate them at the same time Well in the real world people drive drunk so lets just get rid of seat belts. I feel like sometimes people are to afraid of a good healthy debate. I love to debate all things and i feel like i don't have many friends because of it. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_r_ Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Good to know I guess. I dont wear gloves when working with power tools, but at least I know now what would probably happen on my SS if I did and touched the blade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 30 minutes ago, toddclippinger said: A friend of mine was wearing gloves, just like the one we used in the demonstration and his saw blade grabbed it and dragged his hand into the machine cutting off 3 fingers and damaging a 4th. That was why I wanted to know what would happen if he had a SawStop. It seems taboo to bring up the topic of gloves at the table saw but the reality is that it is commonly done in the trades. I simply wanted an answer to this question. That's my point. Those gloves are loose fitting & there's lots to get grabbed by a machine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bleedinblue Posted February 25, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I'm not at all surprised by the result. I am surprised that other demonstrators didn't want to do the same test. In a glove, I can't see how the skin would be in any longer contact with the blade before the brake would be triggered. I understand the hand may go into the blade faster, but everything I've seen has proved to me the brake operates faster than I could ever jam my hand into the blade. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I wonder if the reason they never wanted to try it was because they were worried that when the blades stopped and shot into the table it might grab the glove and try and take the finger with it. I know it's not exactly the least expensive demonstration to do but with the gloves being rubber coated i wonder if leather or pure cloth would have any different of an effect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddclippinger Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 8 minutes ago, bleedinblue said: I'm not at all surprised by the result. I am surprised that other demonstrators didn't want to do the same test. In a glove, I can't see how the skin would be in any longer contact with the blade before the brake would be triggered. I understand the hand may go into the blade faster, but everything I've seen has proved to me the brake operates faster than I could ever jam my hand into the blade. I wondered the same thing about gloves of other material. The demonstrator used that glove because I gave it to him. I chose that glove because a friend was wearing the exact same type and his saw blade grabbed it and dragged his hand into the machine cutting off 3 fingers and damaging a 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Very good video Todd. Thanks for that. Makes me appreciate having that safety feature even more. Ive never worn gloves while using a tablesaw but maybe i will now. Lol Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Slack Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 A couple of days ago, my Bosch Contractor Saw took a poop so I went to my buddy's shop and operated his Saw Stop with gloves. glad to see this works. Todd, great video 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Noel Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I look at the saw stop and think, man if this thing isn't powerful enough to cut thru a hot dog why would I want it or why does that guy have his lunch on the table saw, keep your dogs away from the blade. For those with safety issues and don't trust they are working safely it would be a good purchase, but I have heard that once they have activated the trap they are a pain to re-calibrate. I like a good ole uni. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddclippinger Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Brian Noel said: I look at the saw stop and think, man if this thing isn't powerful enough to cut thru a hot dog why would I want it or why does that guy have his lunch on the table saw, keep your dogs away from the blade. For those with safety issues and don't trust they are working safely it would be a good purchase, but I have heard that once they have activated the trap they are a pain to re-calibrate. I like a good ole uni. Uni's are LEGENDARY - they set the standard for everything to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mds2 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 minute ago, toddclippinger said: Uni's are LEGENDARY - they set the standard for everything to follow. How do they handle gloves? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddclippinger Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just now, mds2 said: How do they handle gloves? They will drag them in, eat them and everything inside of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddclippinger Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Mike. said: Not true. You just replace the cartridge and blade. Takes 5 minutes max and everything is fine. I set my brake off and no additional "re-calibration" was necessary. Sounds like more internet echo chambering to me. Thanks for dampening the "internet echo chambering" Real experienced feedback is good for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I've seen the slam into the blade demo. I asked at the woodshow when the guy did the demo. I said I get you go all slow on the saw, but what happens if the hotdog hits the blade quick like like If i reached over and my arm hit the blade. He smacked the top of the blade with a limp hotdog and the blade shot right down and the hotdog was barely harmed. Flesh sensing technology on a saw is like a condom, "better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddclippinger Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 41 minutes ago, Tom Cancelleri said: I've seen the slam into the blade demo. I asked at the woodshow when the guy did the demo. I said I get you go all slow on the saw, but what happens if the hotdog hits the blade quick like like If i reached over and my arm hit the blade. He smacked the top of the blade with a limp hotdog and the blade shot right down and the hotdog was barely harmed. Flesh sensing technology on a saw is like a condom, "better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it" Sound advice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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