Popular Post shaneymack Posted September 20, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I thought you were supposed to be Mr. Efficiency? All that talk about how bad you hate wasting time? Yet you choose to take the extra steps to store tools in boxes instead of somewhere that makes them easily accessible. Your pull-out drawers that hold your Systainers are better than nothing...but it's still a waste of time. Unless you're on the road, Systainers are inefficient. Period. I keep my TS55 in its Systainer because at the moment I have nowhere else convenient to store it. And every time I go to use it I use profanity at myself for being so stupid to keep it in a box that I have to open to get to the tool...then close...then put away. When I need to use my router...I grab it off the shelf. Done. Getting the tracksaw out is a whole production that takes at least 8-10 seconds of my life. Take that. Funny as inefficient as I am, I still work 10x faster than you. Hmmmmmmmm Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Funny as inefficient as I am, I still work 10x faster than you. Hmmmmmmmm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochese Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Apply cold water to burned area. Systainers may not be efficient, but they make me happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 RICK JAMES B#&*@ !!! LMAO. Best skits ever. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Ordering a systainer full of popcorn right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephThomas Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Your pretty hard headed but i might be even more hard headed. You'll never wear me down. Couldn't disagree more with this, even for a home shop. Take that. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk You're talking just about the mdf 'case'? Or are you arguing that the tool itself is useful/not-useful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 You're talking just about the mdf 'case'? Or are you arguing that the tool itself is useful/not-useful? Systainers. Our once a month arguement. Lol Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephThomas Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Ah ic. Hadn't seen the rest of the 'argument' when I replied, you guys are hilarious, as usual. I like keeping things put away because I don't have great DC for a couple tools and I hate getting dust all over stuff that isn't in a case/drawer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I bought it the last production run. It's more useful than you think. I might CNC up a piece of MDF to hold all my woodpecker stuff so I can hang it on the wall. The case woodpecker sells is just a routed piece of MDF, but it's awfully large with lots of wasted space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I like my systainers, because the alternative would be a bunch of $600 tools lying on the floor. Fact 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochese Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Ordering a systainer full of popcorn right now. Your total will be $275. Butter is $30 extra, and your local dealer will have to order it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 If i had a ton of festool I'd have a shelf to store them close to the work space. One cord would always be plugged in and I'd grab the tool plug it in and go. Systainers seem superfluous. I have a small shop though some of you guys with gigantic estate shops might be different. Super small shops might go the other direction but I have no experience there. The case for the square could be helpful but again I'd probably just make my own solution that takes up less space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estesbubba Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I bought it the last production run. It's more useful than you think. I might CNC up a piece of MDF to hold all my woodpecker stuff so I can hang it on the wall. The case woodpecker sells is just a routed piece of MDF, but it's awfully large with lots of wasted space. Are you taking custom orders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I do keep a cord plugged into my CT at all times. There are two types of cords, I think it depends on the amperage of the tool. The higher gauge cord will fit on the lower amp tools, but not the other way around (I think). But I just switch the cords to make sure the plug-it matches the tool, I don't know enough about electrical motors to know what happens if you up gauge wire... I think you could fry a motor if you start drawing to many amps but your panel doesn't know it because you have too thick of wire between the tool and your outlet. There are 2 different cords one is 18 gauge, and the other is 16 gauge. The 18 will not fit into the track saws or routers. Upgauging a wire isn't going to fry your tools or cause the motor to pull more amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochese Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 There have been people that have shorted their tools by using the larger gauge cord, but it's so rare that it doesn't concern me. I'm sure there were other factors involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 There are 2 different cords one is 18 gauge, and the other is 16 gauge. The 18 will not fit into the track saws or routers. Upgauging a wire isn't going to fry your tools or cause the motor to pull more amps. Good to know, because I've been doing that since I've owned a CT. I've had my share of Festool problems, but shorts and fried motors are not among them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 There have been people that have shorted their tools by using the larger gauge cord, but it's so rare that it doesn't concern me. I'm sure there were other factors involved. Incorrect. People shorten their tool's lives because they are morons and don't properly use their tools. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochese Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Incorrect. People shorten their tool's lives because they are morons and don't properly use their tools. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Ehh...if anything, it's because the cord is used so often the plug becomes loose. Not sure I'd chalk that up to user error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Ehh...if anything, it's because the cord is used so often the plug becomes loose. Not sure I'd chalk that up to user error. That has nothing to do with the upgauging of wire. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochese Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 That has nothing to do with the upgauging of wire. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk No, it doesn't. But it also automatically isn't user error either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 No, it doesn't. But it also automatically isn't user error either. We weren't talking about people's inability to plug their cords in. We clearly were talking about using only 16 gauge cords on all the tools. Using a 16 gauge cord isn't going to fry your tool. If your connector goes bad, chances are it's because people are pulling on their tool's by the cord. Worst case scenario you can get a new plug or connector and change it. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew-in-austin Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 The precision framing square is one of those rare OTT's that's actually a good value. Compare the dimensions and amount of material vs price to the 1281 square, and it's pretty obvious it's on the better side of value --for woodpeckers-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Short has a definite meaning. Shorting a motor is most definitely user error if it happens from operating the plug. Always check the plug visually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 We weren't talking about people's inability to plug their cords in. We clearly were talking about using only 16 gauge cords on all the tools. Using a 16 gauge cord isn't going to fry your tool. If your connector goes bad, chances are it's because people are pulling on their tool's by the cord. Worst case scenario you can get a new plug or connector and change it. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk When im in my shop I use a 10m 16g for every tool. Never had an issue. I think it's important to turn the end of the plug it cord all the way untill it stops to be securely installed on the tool side. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I ordered both versions of the framing square (smaller one and larger in inches) along with the case. They screw you on the mdf if you buy one or both separately, but if you buy them in the package together I think the MDF thing is basically free. $369 + tax for the package deal. You could argue I don't need the 18" one, but I'm not taking a chance when it means waiting another 18 months to buy it. After buying the 1281, I'm sold. That thing is incredible. Those that think it's "just a square" you really gotta use one and see if you feel the same way after. I like systainers too. For one thing I am in a position to build cabinetry just to hold them. I'm pretty rough on everything I touch so I am glad to have the extra protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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