MisterDrow Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 So my wife wants me to make her a barn-style door for the doorway from our kitchen/dining area to the laundry room. We've purchased the hardware and this will be the first project in my newly cleaned and organized shop space (can't start before then or @Chet K will scold me ). I'm looking at my hardwood supplier's current stock list and they've got some rustic (read stable knots, lots of character) alder, cherry, and maple that I'm considering using for this (Not all of them, of course... I need to decide which to use). My question is, lots of the DIY sites that have barn door designs just put everything together, screw on the frame to hold it all together, and put it up. Is wood movement an issue with these? I'm assuming on the DIY sites they are not edge-gluing a panel for the main part so each board can move independenly but maybe I need to consider something with a floating panel in the middle instead? Might be overthinking this... and if I am, feel free to let me know. Just a thought I had on this and I figured I'd ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronn W Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 A photo of what you have in mind would be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephThomas Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 If it's a frame and panel construction done correctly it shouldn't have issues, all that's required is some gap for the floating panel, especially if it's solid wood, (something like this?) ...OR are you talking about something that looks like this? Because yeah something like that will probably have issues... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbb Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 With regard to wood movement, search for Todd Clippinger's video about building an interior door. He made the door with a core of OSB and wrapped it with 3/4 inch stock (poplar, I think, because he was painting it). It made for a very straight and stable door. I will follow his method next time I need to build a door. I found the link: http://americancraftsmanworkshop.com/journal/2014/7/20/demystifying-door-construction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterDrow Posted November 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 @JosephThomas That second one is more like what I've seen, albeit more simple (and kind of ugly, IMO)... I'm thinking something more akin to the first one, there. So it sounds like I am correct in thinking frame-and-panel style is the way to go with this, then. That helps a lot in choosing a design/pattern for it. Thanks for the input! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 That second one is just grotesque. Please don't do that one. First one's nice though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Wright Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 I did some in our house and used "traditional" doors with barn style hardware (bought the doors but I made the hardware). If you do this style it won't be an issue - this kind of doors have been around forever. As far as the more rustic look you will be fine with just using screws with no glue. If the wood is wet you can butt the boards. If it is dry you leave a small gap. Use a halflap joint to cover the gaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbu Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 This is also something that is on my wife's project request list. I came across this video the other day and I think it's pretty on point with what my wife has in mind. Maybe it can help you as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterDrow Posted December 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 I just picked up 50bdft of Alder from my local supplier yesterday. Bought 6/4 for the rails & stiles and 4/4 for the panel in the center. I'll float them with tongue-and-groove in the frame and give the whole thing a nice clear finish. Pretty excited about this! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shaneymack Posted December 2, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 I just picked up 50bdft of Alder from my local supplier yesterday. Bought 6/4 for the rails & stiles and 4/4 for the panel in the center. I'll float them with tongue-and-groove in the frame and give the whole thing a nice clear finish. Pretty excited about this! You better do a journal, young man ! We want to see the doors come together in your newly organized shop boyeeeee! Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterDrow Posted December 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 Oh, I will. I'm in dangerous territory right now as I have to finish that trash cabinet this weekend and (hopefully) that desk on Sunday... I'm starting to pile on projects and it's not good. I've got some gifts to make as of yet, too. This door is a Christmas gift for my wife, though, so it's definitely high on the priority list. One step at a time and I'll get there. One thing I'm going to do is take some extra 1/2" ply I have and make a dust box for underneath my table saw... until I get full dust collection I need to contain it as much as I can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 Oh, I will. I'm in dangerous territory right now as I have to finish that trash cabinet this weekend and (hopefully) that desk on Sunday... I'm starting to pile on projects and it's not good. I've got some gifts to make as of yet, too. This door is a Christmas gift for my wife, though, so it's definitely high on the priority list. One step at a time and I'll get there. One thing I'm going to do is take some extra 1/2" ply I have and make a dust box for underneath my table saw... until I get full dust collection I need to contain it as much as I can. Don't stress yourself out with too many projects and deadlines. Before you know it, your most loved hobby will be an annoying chore instead of pure pleasure. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterDrow Posted December 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 oh, I'm loving it... the garbage can cabinet getting fast-tracked kind of threw everything off. I'll get it wrapped up, though, and all will be well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 This will be a cool project. Look forward to seeing it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterDrow Posted December 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 I am going to need to go back to my supplier today before they close and get two more pieces of 6/4 Alder for it because I mis-measured and won't have enough for all of the rails & stiles of the door (am I using those terms correctly?). At $1.38/bdft it's no big deal, though. Am I missing something here? The more I look, the more it doesn't look like wood movement is accounted for very often with these. The shiplap isn't glued to each other but the tops and bottoms of the boards are glued to the bracing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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