Chet Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, bleedinblue said: Your miter station was your outfeed support for that saw. Will the new saw's table be the same height? This could domino into a new miter station, which would mean ditching the kapex, which means getting a Bosch glide. Yada, yada, yada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 What you selling next? Maybe the grizzly tablesaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 The dust art shot made it look like he was playing with a mustard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted October 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 25 minutes ago, bleedinblue said: Your miter station was your outfeed support for that saw. Will the new saw's table be the same height? This could domino into a new miter station, which would mean ditching the kapex, which means getting a Bosch glide. If I get the Minimax I'll have to lift it about 4". I'm planning to build a base on some of those leveling casters. It'll be a PITA but I'm not building another miter station unless my house burns down and I have to rebuild everything. Same reason I'm stuck with the Kapex (I'm lukewarm about the Glide anyway). 12 minutes ago, mat60 said: What you selling next? Maybe the grizzly tablesaw. Geez, I hope not. I'm replacing tools as needed...it's not for entertainment. 4 minutes ago, C Shaffer said: The dust art shot made it look like he was playing with a mustard. Hawhat? LOL Yeah I found some sawdust art in my table saw cabinet today. Check it out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estesbubba Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 18 hours ago, Eric. said: If I get the Minimax I'll have to lift it about 4". I'm planning to build a base on some of those leveling casters. It'll be a PITA but I'm not building another miter station unless my house burns down and I have to rebuild everything. Same reason I'm stuck with the Kapex (I'm lukewarm about the Glide anyway). I used 8/4 hard maple L-shaped blocks and big eye bolts on my assembly table which allow 4 inches of height adjustment. Don't know if this might work on raising your miter station. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted October 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 13 minutes ago, estesbubba said: I used 8/4 hard maple L-shaped blocks and big eye bolts on my assembly table which allow 4 inches of height adjustment. Don't know if this might work on raising your miter station. No I meant I'll have to raise the bandsaw by about 4". They make those casters with levelers...I haven't really looked into them yet but I assume that's what I'll use. The real challenge will be getting the bastard onto the platform without a hoist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Why don't you have a look at the Italian Lagunas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Seems like the Grizzly went pretty fast. Looks like a good choice for a 16": Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted October 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 19 minutes ago, shaneymack said: Why don't you have a look at the Italian Lagunas? I did for sure but the LT16 doesn't seem to be readily available anywhere I looked. If I could have found it with similar pricing to the MM16 it definitely would have been in the running. And I don't really have the space/budget for a bigger saw. Do you know where I can find one? I see them on the Laguna site (with no pricing) but they always refer you to a dealer where I can't find any in stock. I've found a MM16 for $3100 shipped, which is a pretty good price, so I'm close to pulling the trigger at this point. 4 minutes ago, Tom King said: Seems like the Grizzly went pretty fast. Looks like a good choice for a 16": Four days to sell the Grizzly! Sold it on TWW Guild facebook page. Had a buyer in an hour. That's crazy. I did sell it for pretty cheap but I didn't expect to unload it that quickly. I watched that video Tom. I can't find a bad review of the MM16 anywhere...and I mean literally anywhere. From what I gather it's the pretty clear winner in its class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collinb Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 You could go dual-purpose. :-) http://www.sears.com/rikon-10-34-meat-saw-with-grinder/p-00924716000P?plpSellerId=Sears&prdNo=5&blockNo=5&blockType=G5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collinb Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 19 hours ago, Eric. said: It's like a miniature Grand Canyon! Well, sort of. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, Eric. said: I did for sure but the LT16 doesn't seem to be readily available anywhere I looked. If I could have found it with similar pricing to the MM16 it definitely would have been in the running. And I don't really have the space/budget for a bigger saw. Do you know where I can find one? I see them on the Laguna site (with no pricing) but they always refer you to a dealer where I can't find any in stock. I've found a MM16 for $3100 shipped, which is a pretty good price, so I'm close to pulling the trigger at this point. Four days to sell the Grizzly! Sold it on TWW Guild facebook page. Had a buyer in an hour. That's crazy. I did sell it for pretty cheap but I didn't expect to unload it that quickly. I watched that video Tom. I can't find a bad review of the MM16 anywhere...and I mean literally anywhere. From what I gather it's the pretty clear winner in its class. I was at my Festool/Laguna/Powematic dealer the other day and he had an Lt16hd in stock on the floor. Come on up and get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted October 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, shaneymack said: I was at my Festool/Laguna/Powematic dealer the other day and he had an Lt16hd in stock on the floor. Come on up and get it. You remember the price in real money dollars $? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 28 minutes ago, Eric. said: You remember the price in real money dollars $? I didn't look. He always has an lt16hd in stock though. Why you interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted October 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, shaneymack said: I didn't look. He always has an lt16hd in stock though. Why you interested? Eh...I don't know, I was a few days ago when I was in research mode. But I'm pretty set on the Minimax now. Unless I could find an LT16 cheaper than the MM16, probably not. But thanks anyway. I know you love yours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, Eric. said: Eh...I don't know, I was a few days ago when I was in research mode. But I'm pretty set on the Minimax now. Unless I could find an LT16 cheaper than the MM16, probably not. But thanks anyway. I know you love yours. Ya I have the lt18hd and love it more every time I use it. I'm sure you'll like the minimax. I checked it out before I bought the Laguna. Seemed like a nice machine except for the guides. They were terrible especially compared to the Laguna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted October 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, shaneymack said: Ya I have the lt18hd and love it more every time I use it. I'm sure you'll like the minimax. I checked it out before I bought the Laguna. Seemed like a nice machine except for the guides. They were terrible especially compared to the Laguna Apparently they've been redesigned. They switched to the Carter's for a few years and now they have a new design. Does your LT18 have Euro guides or ceramics? In that Minimax video Tom linked, the guy resawed a wide board with the guides completely removed...that's the kind of saw I need. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 http://www.lagunabandsaws.com/store/laguna-mband185400-italian-lt18-bandsaw 10% off, and free shippng, so $3100 to $3600. Out of curiosity, I was just comparing the two. The 18 Laguna is 25 pounds lighter than the MM16. Difference in table heights too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Eric. said: Does your LT18 have Euro guides or ceramics? It has the ceramic guides. They are pretty awesome. They are much bigger and beefier than the ones on the 1412. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 21 hours ago, bleedinblue said: Your miter station was your outfeed support for that saw. Will the new saw's table be the same height? This could domino into a new miter station, which would mean ditching the kapex, which means getting a Bosch glide. I like this train of thought here ... Now, let me know when that kapex hits the market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted October 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 56 minutes ago, Tom King said: http://www.lagunabandsaws.com/store/laguna-mband185400-italian-lt18-bandsaw 10% off, and free shippng, so $3100 to $3600. Out of curiosity, I was just comparing the two. The 18 Laguna is 25 pounds lighter than the MM16. Difference in table heights too. Yeah I really don't have the space for that. Even the Minimax is pushing it for my tiny shop. There is a very specific place it has to go and a few weird constraints that I have to keep in consideration. If the saw is too big I won't be able to get my router table out...and I'm not reorganizing my entire shop for a saw upgrade. The MM16 has the same power and only 2" less resaw capacity as the LT18, so considering the size factor and the extra $500 it's a tough one to justify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 For times when 16" of resaw capacity is not enough: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 There is a great article in an old FWW issue " How much can a free bandsaw cost ? " A guy is given a huge old Oliver bandsaw, (36" ?). Has to hire riggers just to move it. Motor needed work, had to get a phase converter, get the table machined flat, cut a raised tray in his garage ceiling, cut a recess in the floor too ! He spent a small fortune but one of those saws restored goes for a medium to large fortune. Check the diagonal height of what ever saw you choose. If you can't tip the saw upright in your garage that would really suck. I wonder if he could make reindeer out of a log section ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted October 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 I have 9' ceilings so if I can't tip it up this saw is a lot bigger than I think it is. LOL The Minimax is a pretty compact saw, which is one of the major reasons why it's so desirable to me. A big saw in a small package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 On 10/15/2017 at 6:40 PM, mat60 said: What you selling next? Maybe the grizzly tablesaw. I already called dibs on that. He's not looking to sell unfortunately 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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