wtnhighlander Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Cliff, I honestly like the appearance of these spalted drawer fronts better than the birds-eye. Nice choice! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Nice redo - to bad the birdseye had to much damage, but either one would look great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Redo looks great cliff. Don't toss that birds eye though might be able to use it for drawer pulls or some other accent piece. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted December 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 I got my drawer side front dovetails mostly banged out. Ran into one particular board where the spalted maple was so soft that chiseling resulted in it taking quite a bit of the keep area. I'm really not sure how to fix it. For the most part they look decent, if anything the one picture here is among the worst ones. Then I cut the drawer backs to size. I also cut the drawer sides to final length, I'm skipping out on the hidden drawer. I just don't like it and neither does my wife. Of course since I already cut the upper back panel before coming to this realization it's still going to look like there is a hidden drawer. Oh well! Then I chose to royally bork the drawer back dovetails but cutting the tails into the backs instead of the sides. I have no idea why. I was so sure that was the right thing to do. I'm torn on whether or not to remake the backs. I haven't cut the pins in the side yet. I know the drawer won't be under a lot of stress and I can reinforce the joints with small dowels to make sure they hold together. Since they are in the back, it almost seems stupid to remake them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 Figuring out how to fix or hide your errors is a big part of the path to mastery of our craft. I'm still learning. Avoiding mistakes is a whole nuther skill to learn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 I think you will be fine they are in the back and there will be little to no weight in a drawer that size. I always figure I learn more from my mistakes then my successes...At least that's what I keep telling myself. As a woodworker i feel its just part of the process. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, pkinneb said: I think you will be fine they are in the back and there will be little to no weight in a drawer that size. I agree with all of this. Learn and move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted December 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Marked up my pieces for routing. I definitely see now that making new back pieces would have been way easier in terms of my grooves, but it is what it is at this point. Routed Cut my bottoms and dry fit. I have two drawers dry fitted, still need to do the chisel work and such on the other 3 to get them together. And you can see I'm going to have to notch out the rear dovetail due to my screwup, so that the drawer can go on the rails. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 Looking good Cliff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cliff Posted December 28, 2017 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 I'm so happy to finally have put glue on something. The drawers seem mostly dead on square, which is great considering how many mishaps I had. I'll need to do some cleanup and figure out how to fill the dovetail gaps. I'm torn between clamping the drawer down and routing out parts of the dovetail to glue a piece in or try the rub the saw dust and glue in trick. I can try #2 first then #1. Some of them I think I can fix with a little wedge of wood as well. Honestly though I'm just happy that most of the dovetail mishaps were a result of the wood being soft than my chiseling. Though there were definitely chiseling errors as well. But now I feel like the hardest parts of the project await me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 Cliff, someone asked earlier and I don’t have my plans and don’t remember but, do the drawer fronts get rounded curve to them? Drawers look great by the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted December 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, K Cooper said: Cliff, someone asked earlier and I don’t have my plans and don’t remember but, do the drawer fronts get rounded curve to them? Drawers look great by the way! Yes they do. He hasn't released that video yet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan G Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 Cliff, looking great! Keep up the good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cliff Posted December 30, 2017 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 I cut my grooves in the sides yesterday. I'm sad to say that I managed to talk myself into the idea that the groove was 1/4" deep instead of 3/16" which means I'm going to have to make my runners 7/16" x 1/4" instead of 3/8" x 1/4". Not the end of the world, though it had another consequence that I will show later. I also noticed that my bottom of the jewelry box had warped. Here is an example of it sitting on a flat surface: The top of this piece is dead flat, so I just ran it through the planer to mostly reflatten the bottom. It's still not prefect, but since this box has feet, it won't be obvious so long as it sits correctly on the feet. So I'll take another look at this when that time comes to see if I need to run it through again. I'd hate to lose anymore thickness on it. I cut the back of the box, that is supposed to be a sliding door. Mine will not be a sliding door, as I am not doing a secret compartment, but like I mentioned before, I had already cut the upper back piece grooves as it's one of the very first steps. So it looks like there is a sliding door, but it will be glued. I also cut the grooves on the side pieces and base for this lower back, but got zero pictures of the process. After that I sanded the back pieces, divider and sides to 220 since it will be much harder to sand once I get the runners in. Then I did another dry fit, to see how it's going. The back, you can see what happened because I had my router bit set to 1/4" instead of 3/16", even though I did proper stopped grooves everywhere, it shouldn't have mattered in the top because the groove was supposed to be the same depth. I haven't determined if I will fix this or not. The front, yet again I'm thwarted by sanding making my piece too thin. This is easily the one mistake I make again and again. The worst part is I don't think this upper divider even needed sanding since it's going to be lined with felt or flocking or something. So I may need to remake that piece again. Not the end of the world. If I get time tomorrow, I'll cut the runners, glue them in and start the finessing of the drawers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 Man your work surface looks like mine when I'm in the middle of something, tools, sanding discs, clamps, project components everywhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenskye Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 Looking good Cliff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 Whoever gets this piece better damn well appreciate it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Cliff said: I also noticed that my bottom of the jewelry box had warped. Here is an example of it sitting on a flat surface: Are you stickering all of your parts between work sessions? Every time you you mill things they can change on you especially with big weather changes. Looking good though Cliff. Keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted December 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Isaac said: Man your work surface looks like mine when I'm in the middle of something, tools, sanding discs, clamps, project components everywhere! Oh man. That assembly table is 3' x 6' and I have a work surface of about 16 x 24 inches because it's so cluttered. I have to do better! 21 minutes ago, Chet said: Are you stickering all of your parts between work sessions? Every time you you mill things they can change on you especially with big weather changes. Looking good though Cliff. Keep up the good work. I was not. I'm going to have to start. I don't think it's a coincidence that it cupped on the part sitting against the bench with less air. I've had small movements but never anything like this. It's going to be difficult for me to remember to do this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted December 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 26 minutes ago, K Cooper said: Whoever gets this piece better damn well appreciate it! No kidding. It's my mother-in-law, she will be happy even if I give her a terrible piece, but hopefully it turns out great. The next one is for my wife though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 Cutting dados can release tension in a board. It's just learning opportunities ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 Since it will have feet it will be fairly easy to just knock down the offending corners with a hand plane before you install the feet . You need to be really careful with all the parts of your project like Chet mentioned. It's easy to fix these issues on a tiny project but gets more difficult when you end up getting cupping in a big table top because you didn't take the proper precautions. I sticker every part untill the pieces are glued together or screwed down (if it's a top) It's looking good, Cliff. Keep the updates coming. Ps. Please clean your work bench. Or at least fake it for the photos LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wdwerker Posted December 31, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 A clean desk/bench is the sign of a sick mind ! Pay no mind to those OCD types ! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, shaneymack said: Ps. Please clean your work bench. Or at least fake it for the photos LOL I am glad that a couple of other people mentioned this Cliff, but now that it is out there, you bench clutter makes my eyes water. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 Those OCD types stick together don't they ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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