mat60 Posted April 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 Havent got allot of progress but the cabinet is together and its not coming apart. Doors and doors are done. I need to make the shelfs and then do the finish. I also wanted to post a pic of my Kreg Jig cart that @Llama asked to see . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 Those cabinets look sturdy as frig! Are you building them to withstand a nuclear bomb? Makes me think that i severely under built the cabinets for the house i sold. Good thing i sold it . So with the pocket screw construction do you put glue on the edge of the ply or are the screws the only thing holding the cabinet together? I have never used a pocket screw ever so i know nothing about them other than that they are swear words in some circles and some people get bent out of shape when other insult them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted April 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 The sides have a rabbit front and rear and the face frame and rear have dados that get glued together. I did pocket screw and glue the two dividers inside cabinet and they are also screwed from the bottom. There is no way they will go anywhere. LOL Screws inside of cabinets is something I don't often need to do on most cabinets but because it will have doors and draws and be on the floor it will be fine on this one. Also most cabinets you can nail and screw from the back but not this one. I do sometimes overkill stuff but I don't want to worry about it after it is gone. I make allot of glue blocks at a time and they go in quick and I'm glad of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 12 hours ago, mat60 said: I also wanted to post a pic of my Kreg Jig cart that @Llama asked to see . um, thanks? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted April 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 LOL.. Sorry, I just had to do that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted April 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 Spent a little time today on shelves. I just use iron on edge banding and a small router to trim off excess. The router bit is a flush trim with a slight angle on it. Cant remember if its 2 or 5 degree. I was glad to get the cabinet stained today also. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 I have never used the tape due to fear of how well it would hold up over time what is your experience with longevity on it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted April 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 27 minutes ago, pkinneb said: I have never used the tape due to fear of how well it would hold up over time what is your experience with longevity on it? The problem comes from not getting the edge banding hot enough when applied. I guess like anything else its possible to have banding of poor quality but I have never had a problem with the stuff from my hardwood / plywood dealers . I have been using edge banding for years along with a friend who helped me get started and we don't ever have any callbacks for it. Its something that's used allot in cabinet shops all over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 Edgeband has to be hot enough, but not excessively hot( veneer can scorch) . Pressure needs to be applied but too much pressure can squeeze the melted glue out the sides ( which is a b...h to clean up) . It's not that hard to do but it does take some practice. Shelf edges and in semi protected locations edgeband does fine. An exposed corner can get chipped , dented or torn pretty easily. Practice on scrap! The edgeband is around $25-$30 for a 250 ft roll if I remember right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 2 hours ago, mat60 said: The problem comes from not getting the edge banding hot enough when applied. I guess like anything else its possible to have banding of poor quality but I have never had a problem with the stuff from my hardwood / plywood dealers . I have been using edge banding for years along with a friend who helped me get started and we don't ever have any callbacks for it. Its something that's used allot in cabinet shops all over. Good to know! Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 12 hours ago, pkinneb said: Good to know! Thanks I was thinking a bit more on this morning and I don't mine saying and I think Steve- @wdwerker does his plywood edge using a strip of wood and that' makes for a nicer job.. Steve how you go about doing this and how much more time does it take over iron on banding. I no I talk about having to do things quick allot but its not by choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 I've done a lot of edge banding with a thin strip and regular glue. I just blue taped it on till it dried and then flushed it up. Only reason i did it that was is because i don't own an iron. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 Hey Drew, a household iron works just fine with iron on edgebanding. When I use a solid wood thin strip on an edge I glue, place the strip, then use 2 or 3 micropins to keep it in place while I clamp them face to face with parallel clamps. I've got the MFK 700 trim router with an edge trimming base. it works great but it's ungodly expensive. I got it for trimming laminate on a commercial job & it paid for itself. A regular trim router works but practice on scrap. Cause if you wobble it can eat into the plywood. Just sanding it flush risks sanding thru the veneer. Shelves behind doors or in low risk areas get iron on if I've got a roll of the right wood. High end jobs get solid wood thin strips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Hall Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 Where I work we use a 1/4" edging because of things catching and damaging. We apply it on the full length of the plywood sheet stock before it's cut up for shelving and cabinet boxes if there is no face frames to cover the edge of the plywood. It has to add a bunch of time but the houses are high end and the cabinetry is a small part of the overall construction cost, still six figure kitchens. I have used band molding but was never happy with the outcome, takes practice. Tommy Hall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Chestnut said: Only reason i did it that was is because i don't own an iron. That iron I use belonged to the wife. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted April 8, 2018 Report Share Posted April 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, mat60 said: That iron I use belonged to the wife. Nice my girl friend doesn't own one either. She works from home and never has to dress up and I'm just a lazy slob. By the time my fancy cloths need to be ironed they should be cleaned and off to the dry cleaner they go. @wdwerker I mean home cut edge banding. I've never bought the commercial stuff because i don't have an iron. Foureyes on youtube has a really good setup with a trim router to flush edge banding can't remember what video i saw it in though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mat60 Posted April 9, 2018 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 I finished up tonight. Sprayed and sanded 4 coats of matt finish. I drilled out hinges and installed doors . I then cut strips of wood and planed them down so they would be even with face frame so I could mount my draw slides on them. Installed draws and adjusted them. Installed draw fronts using a wood spacer that was sitting on top of my pre adjusted doors. I drilled out my draw fronts only for the handle and used the holes to screw draw fronts to draws then I could open the draw and install screws in corners into draw fronts.. I then pulled out the screws in handle holes and drilled through the draw itself. I then installed all handles. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Looks fine to me. I would bet it lasts 25 years or more. I know how the appearance of something can seem off after you have worked around it so closely. Clients rarely even think about fussing over the appearance of a single panel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 They turned out great! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted April 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Your right Steve. Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Custom cabinets, show custom skill. Well done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Nicely done Mat. They look great from here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted April 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Thanks Richard and Chet. If we ever get some nice weather Id like to open up the shop and do some much needed spring cleaning now that everyone sees what a dump my shop is..LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 It's kinda fun with a respirator and a leaf blower ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collinb Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 4/8/2018 at 11:07 PM, wdwerker said: It's kinda fun with a respirator and a leaf blower ! Ya, all that sawdust just self-composts between grass blades. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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