socoj2 Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 My Hoa is run by the Little Colonel, and wont let me have a pergola over my deck. I need to build a table for my Big Green Eggs anyway. im looking at doing a 12'x32" table i was going to use 3x 8x8x8 and build a cantilevered pergola with 3 foot on the back side and 9 foot on the other side. What wood would you guys consider for this. First person that says teak Gets shot. The HOA doesnt have a restriction on furniture so as long as its not permanent no permission required. Pergola would be something like this but 3 uprights and a table build into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyoak Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 My wood choices would be Western Red cedar which is in the picture I think and Cypress. I think the cedar will outlast the cypress but the cypress is a good second choice. Mounted to a table may not be a big enough anchor for your construction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Teak. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 I made my table for my Big Green Egg in 1995 out of teak. I used 2" brass screws . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Western red cedar is beautiful, rot resistant, and very light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socoj2 Posted April 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 5 hours ago, curlyoak said: My wood choices would be Western Red cedar which is in the picture I think and Cypress. I think the cedar will outlast the cypress but the cypress is a good second choice. Mounted to a table may not be a big enough anchor for your construction. Of after i show the HOA its a table. im going to bolt it do the Deck =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Put a planter at each end. The dirt will act as a counterweight and some vines would provide shade. I would build the pergola out of red cedar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Another vote for WRC, mostly because is is very light. That will be a huge benefit for that cantilevered design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socoj2 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Thankfully Thomas Lumber is here local to me about 10 minutes away. looks like they have everything i need lumber estimate is about $1200 for this table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 You could make those 8 x 8 posts hollow to reduce the weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socoj2 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, wdwerker said: You could make those 8 x 8 posts hollow to reduce the weight. They are going to have a lot of Torque on them from the pergola, my S.W.A.G engineering degree says i shouldnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 4 - 2x6 should be plenty strong I would guess. I was just thinking about the weight of those 8x8 posts on top of a deck up on metal posts 9 or 10 ft high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socoj2 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 how would you join those together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 You could either rip or joint one edge and rabbet or plane the inside face to get rid of any rounded corners then a bead of exterior construction adhesive . Stainless nails or trim screws. So there would only be one seam on each face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 I agree on the hollow 8x8. The center of a post offers very little strength, which is one reason why hollow structural steel members are hollow. My main concern would be with tipping over. To make it a bit more stable i'd consider putting some feet on it until you appease the hoa and can bolt it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizslaDad Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 This guy does a lot of cool structural bent lamination work (curved LVL), and his channel is full of useful shots of how he puts them together. My favorite bit is that he builds forms on a work table by simply screwing blocks down and then bending the strips around the blocks. I believe he uses larch (and is in eastern europe) but cedar or similar ought to work for a similar approach I'd imagine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Cedar or Cypress would be my choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnus A Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 Interesting topic. i am looking at building one, but I want my roof covered (for rainy days). At what point do you need a city permit do build one of these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 Every HOA and city , county etc has varied rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socoj2 Posted April 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Cygnus A said: Interesting topic. i am looking at building one, but I want my roof covered (for rainy days). At what point do you need a city permit do build one of these? Pretty much if its a Structure thats permanent. Otherwise its just furniture. Unless your hoa has a furniture ordinance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 A canvas roof would be semi transparent and much lighter in weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyoak Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 If you live in a warm, humid and bright environment you might consider adding lexan plastic to the roof. I use 50% shade to grow orchids. A dry space will be more useful if it rains a lot... https://www.sundancesupply.com/polycarbonate/corrugated/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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