Mark J

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Reading through the post:  Sketchup 2018, it's good to see that Sketchup Make 2017 is still available.  But it also seems that there are a lot of alternative design programs.

For those who don't have a huge investment in Sketchup maybe it's time to consider a succesor or at least an alternative.  What would that be?

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The old versions of sketcup will always be available, i don't really see any reason to move to something new. The parts warehouse if it gets put behind a  paywall is only a part of the program something that really isn't even needed. The basic nature of the program is pretty solid and outside of new features probably doesn't need to ever change. If the upgrade is for upgrades sake I'd reconsider and just stick with it.

I still much prefer the predecessor strait 3d Autocad. I think it's faster and a lot more flexible but it has a learning curve.

Fusion 360 is a good option.

Also

https://www.easyrender.com/rendering-software/7-best-3d-modeling-programs-like-sketchup

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Yeah, I'm not a big one for upgrades.  I'm still running Office 2000.  Has the English language evolved so much that I need a new word processor.

Thanks for the run down on the software, Nut.  I'm gonna peruse that web article later.  I was thinking of looking into Fusion 360.  Is it easier to use than Sketchup?

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For me the best thing about SketchUp is its versatility. I can quickly explore a concept, see it from any angle and show what the concept will look like to someone who doesn't understand technical drawings. I think of this as a cleaner version of a "napkin sketch". That doesn't take long and unlike a hand drawn sketch, the model can be changed, copied and modified so that I (or my client) can compare different versions side by side, again from any point of view.

I can then take that concept sketch and use parts of it to generate an accurate, detailed model without much fuss. From a completed model I can generate any type of 2 dimensional output in the form of measured drawings or artistic renderings. The model contains complete information about each and every part, and I can retrieve that information to generate an accurate cutlist with a few clicks of the mouse.

There are methods and other software programs that do some of these things, but SketchUp is the most complete solution to design/engineering/problem-solving/presentation/project management.

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I have been trying to learn Fusion360 and if I ever get fully comfortable, sketchup will be replaced. 

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For those of us that prefer *nix operating systems, FreeCAD is a very powerful up-and-comer. Still under rapid development, though. New features and/or changes happen pretty often.

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I want to try linix in the near future.  I may hit you up for some advice.

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7 hours ago, Mark J said:

I want to try linix in the near future.  I may hit you up for some advice.

My preferred desktop distribution is Ubuntu Linux, with the KDE Desktop environment. It isn't the fastest out there, but has good support for all sorts of video and audio hardware, and is pretty easy to use. 

I suggest downloading a "live" installer image from here that lets you boot from dvd or usb to try it out befor installing on your hard disk.

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14 hours ago, Mark J said:

Yeah, I'm not a big one for upgrades.  I'm still running Office 2000.  Has the English language evolved so much that I need a new word processor.

Thanks for the run down on the software, Nut.  I'm gonna peruse that web article later.  I was thinking of looking into Fusion 360.  Is it easier to use than Sketchup?

No it's not but you can do more with it. If sketchup is a pencil and paper Fusion 360 is a drafting table. If you have any CAD experience it will translate through to Fusion 360. Also autodesk has free tutorials on Fusion 360 that are quite helpful.

11 hours ago, wtnhighlander said:

For those of us that prefer *nix operating systems, FreeCAD is a very powerful up-and-comer. Still under rapid development, though. New features and/or changes happen pretty often.

I've dabbled with that, i have a friend that is HUGE in linux. He made me try FreeCAD and it's dang good. Not too far from the Autodesk product that rules the drafting world.

9 hours ago, Mark J said:

I want to try linix in the near future.  I may hit you up for some advice.

Do what  Ross said my only addition is too look into the LTS (Long Term Support) version This way you won't get forced to upgrade in 18 months. Also Ubuntu Mate is good for older computers that can't quite hack modern bloated operating systems. The thing that i love about linux now is they've solved for the most part the driver and software issue. You can just install stuff like you can on windows and they support 99.9% of devices. Honestly their driver support is better than windows. Linux still has it's quirks that sometime get me pretty fired up.

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As a heavy CAD user, I despise Sketchup. if you are good with CAD you are better off using Fusion 360, Solidworks, Inventor, or something similar. 

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I prefer Fusion 360 for almost anything woodworking related. I only use sketchup when I need a cut list when using sheet goods.

Fusion is far more powerful and user friendly once you get the hang of it.

 

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I'm going to stay out of this one because I am in the minority in the CAD world.

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I started to look at a tutorial on Sketchup and gaveup. I went back to the pencil, pad, and ruler.  I'm of the slide rule generation- I still have mine from college. If you don't know what a slide rule is, the search is your homework for this evening.;)

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