ktb15 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 My planer just died so looking into some combo machines and realize hammer is the best but $5,600 with shipping is not in the budget right now and even if I could find a way to justify that it has a 4-8 week delivery time which I can't wait. I definitely want a helical head so it's narrowed down to jet or grizzly since those are the only ones I know of. I'm leaning towards a combo machine because it also upgrades my 6" jointer and will free up some floor space. Just wondering if anyone here has used one of these 12" combo machines and looking for opinions on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Can't help you with them, but you might try Oliver, I think I saw a combo machine on one of their sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 I would keep in mind that the tariffs on Chinese Woodworking machinery goes into effect July 6. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenskye Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 To add into what Mick said if you buy a grizzly and it's not in stock on the 6th you will pay the 25% increase. Even with the tariffs you could find a Chinese machine and still come out at half the cost of the Hammer. You just need to find a broker to handle all the shipping and customs paperwork. You probably could have in 3-4 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firehawk Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 Does anybody know where Jet Machines are made? I was planning on purchasing one and wonder if there is the same issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktb15 Posted July 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 25% increase for tariffs? I was definitely unaware of that. I noticed I was looking a few days ago and the jet increased by $70 today, not sure if that has something to do with it. I'll check out Oliver I didn't even think of them thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktb15 Posted July 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 I also found this rikon, looks almost identical to the jet and would be $2,350 with helical head, that seems like a steal compared to everything else but I wonder if it's made to lower specs than the jet https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/rikon-25-210h?cm_mmc=Google-_-PRODUCTFEED-_-RIKON-_-25-210H&CAWELAID=600009240005415972&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=49855079687&CATCI=pla-355152186416&catargetid=600009240005416100&cadevice=c&gclid=CjwKCAjwmufZBRBJEiwAPJ3Lph3XuS2KOO9fUX6_sBFpTTyG2GnQASyjLFXEzyaOJfn87AJDhrpEKBoCI84QAvD_BwE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 I haven't heard any bad reviews about Acme tools. In fact everything said about them has been good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 I've ordered a good bit from Acme. Always good service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 I have had the Hammer A3/31 for about 12/13 years and although once in a while the combo machine is in the wrong mode never really been a big deal for me. I buy way to much at Acme they are a solid company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktb15 Posted July 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 yea I got my drum sander from them. So the rikon is 1k less than the jet and the only discernible difference I can see is two knobs on the front of the jet aren't on the rikon but I'm not sure what they do. I looked on Oliver's site but all I saw was a 24" double surfacer lol probably around 50k and the size of a civic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 Dang, that’s still a bunch of dinero! You guys are serious woodworkers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, K Cooper said: Dang, that’s still a bunch of dinero! You guys are serious woodworkers! Said the guy who drank the green Kool Aid. Sorry Coop, someone had to do it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 Yeah, but that was justifiable. Just ask my bride, she’ll tell you, as she’s leaving Hobby Lobby , Target, etc. Thank God we live a long way from Sak’s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lewisc Posted July 3, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, RichardA said: I haven't heard any bad reviews about Acme tools. In fact everything said about them has been good. I think there's a Coyote running around that might disagree with that. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 10 hours ago, ktb15 said: yea I got my drum sander from them. So the rikon is 1k less than the jet and the only discernible difference I can see is two knobs on the front of the jet aren't on the rikon but I'm not sure what they do. I looked on Oliver's site but all I saw was a 24" double surfacer lol probably around 50k and the size of a civic Tomorrow the 15% off coupon on acme expires. I don't know if that is a motivating factor. I don't know if that rikon combo would be good or bad. Rikon has a good reputation, at least i hear very little bad about them. 10 hours ago, RichardA said: I haven't heard any bad reviews about Acme tools. In fact everything said about them has been good. Their rental departmnet is really bad at times. Poor tools poor service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktb15 Posted July 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 I’m hoping to make my decision by tomorrow so I can take advantage of that discount just trying to figure out what the difference in the jet and rikon is, I’ll have to take a look at some part diagrams later and see if I can find so,etching there. Almost seems too good to be true that it’s 1k less than the jet just for a different color machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 So i remember a guy on the forum buying the jet JJP combo unit. To me the big thing is probably the fence. Where the rubber meets the road, the cutter head, they are both 56 insert heads and look the same. My guess is rikon found a way to make the machine more economically and there aren't major differences. Jet is a JPW industry (powermatic owner) company and probably leans on reputation to charge a bit more for their equipment. I generally look at weight, usually a tel-tale sign if they cheap out on parts and they are both 500 lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuxleyWood Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 The Grizzly J/P combos should only be going up 5% (raw material increase) since it is made in Taiwan, not China. I am not sure where the other Asian combos are made nor how the companies are going to deal with price increases, we only know about the Grizzly prices increases since Balolia has commented about it on forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktb15 Posted July 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Baileigh is also having a sale through tomorrow 17.78% off everything. Their stuff looks pretty nice but the jointer/planer is $700 to ship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, ktb15 said: Bailey is also having a sale through tomorrow 17.78% off everything. Their stuff looks pretty nice but the jointer/planer is $700 to ship 17.76%, just, well of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktb15 Posted July 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, Mick S said: 17.76%, just, well of course. Never was good at history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 I just found 2 Baileigh j/p's One is 12 " I didn't delve into the other one. They're a good company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktb15 Posted July 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 So the one on their website looks like a rebranded jet but says "Product image is only a representation, actual product appearance may differ slightly" When I do a google search the only pictures or reviews are of a rebranded grizzly machine so I wonder which machine it actually is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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