houstonjc Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 How do you guys decide which kind of wooden drawer slides to use? I'm planning to build a walnut and bubinga sideboard with four drawers. The drawers are going to be 21" wide x 15" deep, and range from 4" to 6" tall. I'm considering either a webframe with drawers sliding directly on the frame, or a stopped dado with runners on the side. The webframe seems like it would rack a little less (which I'm worried about given the width of the drawers), but could lead to in equal gaps at the top when the piece expands and contracts. What would you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 See @Chet project Journal, sideboard. Having never done bottom drawer guides, I’m going to follow his lead. Side guides/slides depend on too much on .the case being exactly square. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 And welcome to the forum. I take it you’re from Houston? , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyoak Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 There are many good answers. My preference is to have the drawer sides made or 9/16" quartered oak, is where the contact is made. The center guide on the bottom of the drawer does not touch on the bottom, just side to side. I rub all contact areas with copious amounts of paraffin. The paraffin needs to be refurbished every now and then. The drawer will tell you. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gee-dub Posted August 16, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 As stated, many good answers. For web frames that will support the drawer I use hard maple. For side runners I use maple, ash, pecan or other very hard wood. I drill counter bores and over sized through holes for adjustment and proper sized holes for "keeper" screws once the adjustment is complete. Stopped dados on the router table after the drawer boxes are assembled. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonjc Posted August 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 Thanks, all, for the suggestions. Gee-dub, are there benefits or detriments to chosing webframes vs side runners? When would you use one over another? k Cooper, I am indeed in Houston (Katy, actually). Are you enjoying the heat this summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyoak Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Gee-dub I like your adjustable and keeper holes in the runners. Drawers need adjustments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 @curlyoak and @gee-dub, do you guys ever use dt’s on the runners? I just pulled a drawer from our dresser and the double runners are on the drawer. Is one preferred over the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 8 hours ago, houstonjc said: Thanks, all, for the suggestions. Gee-dub, are there benefits or detriments to chosing webframes vs side runners? When would you use one over another? k Cooper, I am indeed in Houston (Katy, actually). Are you enjoying the heat this summer? I tend to use side runners on smaller drawers. Larger drawers ride on the frame. Very large drawers ride on the frame with a center guide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyoak Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 what is dt's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 5 hours ago, curlyoak said: what is dt's? Dove tails. No disrespect to Rob Hare but, I've done these once and found them quite fussy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyoak Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 No dove tails on my runners... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 So, in addition to Chet’s, that’s three for no dt’s and that’s good enough for me. Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronn W Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 Here's another Idea - wood glides. I used these once and the work quite well. However, I put 2 on each drawer rather than one in the middle - much more stable. http://www.rockler.com/classic-wood-center-mount-drawer-slide 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 My drawers are only 16” wide so maybe a little overkill but good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 9 hours ago, K Cooper said: So, in addition to Chet’s, that’s three for no dt’s and that’s good enough for me. Thanks guys. I use dt’s, but only on small projects, jewelry boxes come to mind, small drawers ect. They are fussy but worth it IMO on the right project. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 Thanks Dave. Just something else to complicate my life! I’ve been wanting to try new stuff, and it’s my wife’s table, so what the hey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 Coop, I have only used dovetails as center guides on the bottom, I haven't and probably wouldn't use them on the sides. It seems like there would be to much tendency for them to bind in that orientation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekcohen Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 On 8/17/2018 at 2:23 AM, houstonjc said: Thanks, all, for the suggestions. Gee-dub, are there benefits or detriments to chosing webframes vs side runners? When would you use one over another? k Cooper, I am indeed in Houston (Katy, actually). Are you enjoying the heat this summer? I have only ever used drawer blades (frames). This is the traditional way. When I think of runners on drawers, I think of the kitchen On a recent build, I came up with an idea for an adjustable drawer stop that is simple to install ... I wish I had thought of this years ago. Regards from Perth Derek 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 Derek, the frames you pictured are open, but do you ever include panels to close them? One pet peeve of mine is that drawers without full seperation of jam each other if one is over-filled, or contains an odd shaped object that can turn and wedge itself. Fully seperated drawers at least limit the jam to a single drawer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Chet said: Coop, I have only used dovetails as center guides on the bottom, I haven't and probably wouldn't use them on the sides. It seems like there would be to much tendency for them to bind in that orientation. Thanks. Mine will be on the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 I think for a bigger drawer the bottom may be the way to go but on small stuff i think they look cool and add that extra touch to a special project. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekcohen Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 31 minutes ago, wtnhighlander said: Derek, the frames you pictured are open, but do you ever include panels to close them? One pet peeve of mine is that drawers without full seperation of jam each other if one is over-filled, or contains an odd shaped object that can turn and wedge itself. Fully seperated drawers at least limit the jam to a single drawer. It sounds like a good idea, but it's quite a bit of extra work, and it has rarely been an issue. Really. There is a simple solution - don't over fill drawers Regards from Perth Derek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekcohen Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 Treeslayer, that's a very nice piece! Cleanly done. What is the wood? Regards from Perth Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 3 hours ago, derekcohen said: Treeslayer, that's a very nice piece! Cleanly done. What is the wood? Regards from Perth Derek Hey Derek, thanks it’s cherry, some light sapwood is in it around the box joints on the doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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