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10 hours ago, Tom T said:

Has anyone seen this happen before? No wood was near the blade and neither were my fingers. I didn’t think it a problem to lower the blade an 1/8” with the saw running. Am I wrong?

I haven't heard of this happening. It doesn't logically follow that moving the blade should trip the brake.

The only thing I can think of is that the blade needs to be spaced correctly from the cartridge, using that yellow spacer tool. Maybe your blade was too close to the cartridge and moving it affected that? 

That's the only thing I can think of. You should definitely contact SS and let them know.

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I contacted Sawstop and they had never heard of this.  I have an authorization to return to get it analyzed.  Sure don't want to put in another WW2 until I'm sure it won't happen again.  I put in a cheap blade and a new cartridge and it seemed to work fine.  Hmmmm.

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Do you run an aftermarket zero clearance insert or miter guide?  I agree it's weird....I raise and lower my blade all the time while it's running, never had an issue.

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@Tom T Today I got my zero clearance throat plate from Infinity Cutting Solutions. To install it, you lower the blade all the way, turn the saw on, and raise the running blade through the plate. 

Anyway, I was thinking about your issue while I was doing this and REALLY hoping it wouldn't trip the brake as I moved the blade up. 

It did not do it.

But after I tripped the brake the first time, and killed the brand spankin' new blade that came with the saw, I went and bought a $30 combination blade to use while I get acclimated to this new saw and the brake. 

Please keep us up to date when SS gets back to you after their analysis. I am very interested in this one! 

And, sorry about the WW2. That's a nice blade. 

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I like my fingers but I think it would me understandable why some would not want a SS.

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After reading through this thread and the posts, I'm going out into the shop and kiss my Ryobi BT3000! The only trouble I have is cleaning the sawdust out of the cabinet- Shop Vac doesn't get all of it. Don't get me wrong, this has been an interesting thread.

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@Bankstick, @mat60

After my inadvertent brake triggering, I was understandably upset. It ruined s brand new blade and I had to replace a $80 cartridge.

But having said that, I do not regret the purchase one bit. The fit and finish on the saw are simply excellent. It's by far the nicest tool I've ever owned.

As with any technology that's brands new, there are going to be things that happen that we didn't see coming. And even without the flesh sensing feature, there is always a period of getting to know a new machine -especially when that machine is the center of the shop.

I hope this thread doesn't discourage anyone from purchasing a Sawstop. 

I am a few weeks into ownership now and am getting more comfortable every day. I've accepted that I have to be more deliberate in evaluating what I'm about to cut for moisture or imbedded metal. That's new. 

But if there's any doubt I simply run the piece through on bypass mode and they tells me if I need to keep it in BM or not.

I've taken the cheap replacement blade off and resumed using my "good" blades.

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I always thought if I was looking for a new saw it would be a Powermatic.  Part of that reason was I thought the Sawstop  would be allot more money and I see that's not the case. I also looked into the price of the break cartridges. I see on Amazon they are only $69.00 for a 10 inch blade cartridge and $89.00 for the 8 inch dado blade.  I have been in the shop at the tablesaw all day and have given this some thought.   Sometimes when you get old  you get set in your ways.. I changed my mind.  Enjoy your saw.

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12 minutes ago, mat60 said:

I always thought if I was looking for a new saw it would be a Powermatic.  Part of that reason was I thought the Sawstop  would be allot more money and I see that's not the case. I also looked into the price of the break cartridges. I see on Amazon they are only $69.00 for a 10 inch blade cartridge and $89.00 for the 8 inch dado blade.  I have been in the shop at the tablesaw all day and have given this some thought.   Sometimes when you get old  you get set in your ways.. I changed my mind.  Enjoy your saw.

Just note that when comparing the PCS to the PM2000 it's apples and oranges. The PM2000 has a larger cast iron table and more mass and features. The ICS is more the competitor to the PM2000. The PCS doens't have a competitor as much if there was one i'd say it's the Jet 3hp but even that i think is a bit heavier and larger. The PM1000 is the same size and weight but only comes in 1.75 hp.

People love to compare the PCS and the PM2000 but that is very unfair to but the PCS and the PM2000. I don't expect the PCS is built to the industrial standards the PM2000 is.

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14 minutes ago, mat60 said:

I always thought if I was looking for a new saw it would be a Powermatic.  Part of that reason was I thought the Sawstop  would be allot more money and I see that's not the case. I also looked into the price of the break cartridges. I see on Amazon they are only $69.00 for a 10 inch blade cartridge and $89.00 for the 8 inch dado blade.  I have been in the shop at the tablesaw all day and have given this some thought.   Sometimes when you get old  you get set in your ways.. I changed my mind.  Enjoy your saw.

Matt. When the brake kicks on, it not only ruins the brake, but it destroys the saw blade.  Be careful what you wish for.

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5 hours ago, Chestnut said:

Just note that when comparing the PCS to the PM2000 it's apples and oranges. The PM2000 has a larger cast iron table and more mass and features. The ICS is more the competitor to the PM2000. The PCS doens't have a competitor as much if there was one i'd say it's the Jet 3hp but even that i think is a bit heavier and larger. The PM1000 is the same size and weight but only comes in 1.75 hp.

People love to compare the PCS and the PM2000 but that is very unfair to but the PCS and the PM2000. I don't expect the PCS is built to the industrial standards the PM2000 is.

 Drew you are correct I wish would have known that when I bought my PCS, I came from a PM66 and it took me a long time to get used to the smaller table. In my experience other than that power, fit finish, dust collection, performance are as good or better than my PM66. 

Both were great saws but I’m not going to lie I like the SS better, primarliy for its smooth operation, dust collection, and the great arbor for changing blades. The safety feature is just that and I hope I never need it but if I do I’ll be glad it’s there.

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