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How long can I work with getting multiple layers of glued pieces together before clamping?  Meaning, how long can I move and work with the glued pieces before I clamp them to dry? 

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I don't know off the top of my head, but the working time will be on the packaging or check their website.  

They will list two numbers.  One is open time, this is how long the glue you've spread on one wood surface can be open to the air/oxygen.  The second value is working time.  This is how long you have to re-position two pieces of wood with a glue layer between them.  

Hope that helps.

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APPLICATION TEMPERATURE:
Above 47°F
OPEN ASSEMBLY TIME:
8-10 minutes (70°F./50%RH)
TOTAL ASSEMBLY TIME:
20-25 minutes (70°F./50%RH)
MINIMUM REQUIRED SPREAD :
Approximately 6 mils or 250 square feet per gallon
REQUIRED CLAMPING PRESSURE:
Enough to bring joints tightly together (generally, 100-150 psi for softwoods, 125-175 psi for medium woods and 175-250 psi for hardwoods)
 
 
From titebond website.
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So many variables to answer your question..  Temperature, humidity, etc..

If I find myself really needing a lot of open time, I usually go to epoxy.

Something else that helps is improved ways to spread the glue like rollers and brushes.

Clamping strategy can also improve your speed to stay ahead of the glue.  Dry fits help us understand where we need clamps to close up those pesky little gaps..

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46 minutes ago, Mark J said:

I don't know off the top of my head, but the working time will be on the packaging or check their website.  

They will list two numbers.  One is open time, this is how long the glue you've spread on one wood surface can be open to the air/oxygen.  The second value is working time.  This is how long you have to re-position two pieces of wood with a glue layer between them.  

Hope that helps.

Thanks

35 minutes ago, curlyoak said:
APPLICATION TEMPERATURE:
Above 47°F
OPEN ASSEMBLY TIME:
8-10 minutes (70°F./50%RH)
TOTAL ASSEMBLY TIME:
20-25 minutes (70°F./50%RH)
MINIMUM REQUIRED SPREAD :
Approximately 6 mils or 250 square feet per gallon
REQUIRED CLAMPING PRESSURE:
Enough to bring joints tightly together (generally, 100-150 psi for softwoods, 125-175 psi for medium woods and 175-250 psi for hardwoods)
 
 
From titebond website.

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Titebond III has been my go-to glue since it came out. I have had it with open joints for at least 10 minutes, even in warmer weather. Once you put it together, you have only a few minutes until it grabs. Once it does, you need a hammer to take it apart. I get really strong joints using it.

 

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The ideal if you need TB#3 is to keep it WET as long as posdible. Now this might mean a little glue may run down but atleast you know it's not dried on you enough to breal k good contact...

I won't use TB#3 for anything unless it's exterior...

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Titebond 3 is my preferred glue. Little bit longer open time than the first two. Does tend to be a bit runnier though. Havent decided if thats a good thing or a bad thing.

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Makes a bit of a mess for my liking. I use 2 mostly. I use 3 when water exposure is expected. I've never had an issue with time on TB II. Though when i know I'll have an issue i use epoxy.

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1 hour ago, Chestnut said:

Makes a bit of a mess for my liking. I use 2 mostly. I use 3 when water exposure is expected. I've never had an issue with time on TB II. Though when i know I'll have an issue i use epoxy.

I agree and would add if I am working with a darker wood I typically use TB III as well.

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5 hours ago, Chestnut said:

Makes a bit of a mess for my liking. I use 2 mostly. I use 3 when water exposure is expected. I've never had an issue with time on TB II. Though when i know I'll have an issue i use epoxy.

II shows water resistant and III shows waterproof. I’ll be jointing boards for a purple Martin bird house so would epoxy be the preferred, although the set up time is greater? 

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40 minutes ago, Coop said:

II shows water resistant and III shows waterproof. I’ll be jointing boards for a purple Martin bird house so would epoxy be the preferred, although the set up time is greater? 

Titebond III should be fine for that Ken.  It will get wet but then it will dry off, it isn't like you are going to submerge it in water for an extended period.  Epoxy would make it more durable I think but I think TB III is fine.

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10 hours ago, Coop said:

II shows water resistant and III shows waterproof. I’ll be jointing boards for a purple Martin bird house so would epoxy be the preferred, although the set up time is greater? 

I've used III for some out door bird feeders and it holds up well. 2 did not however. The glue weakened and separated.

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