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And those gaps in the column have all but disappeared. Your solution was correct. Looking good bud! 

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27 minutes ago, Coop said:

And those gaps in the column have all but disappeared. Your solution was correct. Looking good bud! 

Hard to tell under all that glue! :lol: I plan to start cleaning that up tomorrow.

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This is coming along nicely. It's very interesting seeing your jigs that you are using to make these table tops. The three legs on the base seem kinda close together even with the extra weight it appears to me that it might be slightly tippy. Tripods are good for never rocking but aren't as stable along the base of the triangle. It'll probably be fine I'm just curious i guess.

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18 minutes ago, Chestnut said:

 Tripods are good for never rocking but aren't as stable along the base of the triangle.

I agree that the base is fairly small, but there is still the option of having the bottom of the cone directly on the floor. If I can get the top of the cone trimmed perpendicular to the verticle center of the cone, I can adjust the feet from above, before installing the top, allowing the feet to just add a bit of stability if the bottom rim rocks. 

As for ballast, that bolt can hold 5 ten-pound plates, so I feel confident. Like a Weeble, it might wobble, but it won't fall down! :D

Sorry Drew, you might need someone older to explain that reference...

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So tripods or bases with 3 contact points don't rock on an uneven surface like a base with 4 legs. The trouble with tripods is the distance from the center to the base is half that of the distance from the center to a leg. If yo apply a force along one of those 3 sides of the tripod they tip somewhat easily. In the picture below if a force is applied on the edge of the table, aka someone leaning on it, the person will have a much greater lever to tip the table over vs if they lean near a leg.

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I don't know the dimensions of your table so the numbers there are just for illustration purposes.

With your added weight i doubt it's a concern but just a thought that came to mind. It's goign to be hard to tell until you get the table together.

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The table top is 42" diameter (approximately), and the base is a bit more than 1/3 of that, about 15 1/2 ID". The idea with the adjustable feet being tucked under the 'skirt' at the bottom is to let the feet touch down just enough to eliminate any rocking on the concrete floor this will live on. The rim of the base will probably still touch in at least one point, and be  only a small fraction of an inch off the floor at most, so the rim will really catch any leaning events. It may still tip, but with ballast to counter the weight of the top, I expect it will be hard to push over.

The design stems from the client's desire to avoid having the usual 4 feet sticking out, so as to maximize seating around the circular table. I'll admit, its an experiment.

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Ross, your already thinking along the same lines as the solution I was going to suggest.  Adding 4th, 5th and 6th feet at the perimeter of the cone that are say 1/8"  off the floor.  These would be like outriggers to limit tip.  But the skirt or rim of the base is even better if the gap is small enough.

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On 3/17/2020 at 8:15 AM, wtnhighlander said:

Like a Weeble, it might wobble, but it won't fall down! :D

Sorry Drew, you might need someone older to explain that reference...

LOL i completely misread your post. I thought you were asking for clarification and explained the triangle thing which you probably knew. Man i feel like a mooron.

Weeble, i am familiar with the reference. A good friend of mine growing up had an inflatable one that we'd punch and kick like a punching bag. It was good fun and was encouraged so we weren't punching and kicking each other.... Later on while playing hockey i was commonly refereed to as a weeeble, as no matter how hard people tried they couldn't hit me down. It helps that I'm short. Like cremona short.

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Spokeshave:

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The most satisfying tool in my collection. Even this el-cheapo model peels long, curly strands from the wood with each stroke.

There may not be much faceting left, by the time I quit!  :o

 

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33 minutes ago, wtnhighlander said:

Spokeshave:

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The most satisfying tool in my collection. Even this el-cheapo model peels long, curly strands from the wood with each stroke.

There may not be much faceting left, by the time I quit!  :o

 

Might even be as thin as a TP tube.:ph34r:

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1 hour ago, wtnhighlander said:

Quickly approaching the "finish" line. Now is when it all slows to a crawl....

Here, the components are still only stacked together. When I add screws from below, the seam between the disks of the top close up tightly.

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There is a gap under one of the cross-braces I need to fix...

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Seating height test. I happen to have a shop stool the same height as the client's stools.

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Nailed it.

As you can see, building a table has become challenging, since I moved in to the shed. My hand is sticking out the doorway to make this shot, and that is the ONLY open area large enough to stand the table in!  But at least I have heat and AC now.

I still have to make a cherry ring to slip around the base. Client tells me the concrete floor has a 1/8" per foot fall for drainage, as it was originally intended as an open-air porch, before he enclosed it. Guess I'll be making use of those leveling feet after all. Aside from adding a bit of color, the cherry ring, being loose, will slide down to cover any gap between the base and the floor.

I am really digging this size and shape of table. Might have to make one for my deck, if I can source some reasonably weather-resistant material for it.

 

It looks like that brace with the gap is a tad higher than the other one that's visible at the rear of the brace, might mean a touch of chisel work in the joint.

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The table is looking good Ross.

Did I miss a page in "The life of Ross"  Were did the shed come in to being and was it built specifically to be your shop?

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I agree with Paul, that base looks great, really nice job blending it together too. Very cool

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2 hours ago, wtnhighlander said:

Nailed it.

Hold on there my friend!  It ain't tested until it's functionally tested.  You need a beer.  :D

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2 hours ago, Chet said:

The table is looking good Ross.

Did I miss a page in "The life of Ross"  Were did the shed come in to being and was it built specifically to be your shop?

The shed has been here a couple of years. It began life as a hobby room for Cody's model trains, but he kind of lost interest (in the room, not the trains). In an effort to have a modicum of climate control, and vastly reduced volume of sawdust tracked into the house, I moved (most of) my tools into it. Lumber is still in the garage, and a couple of machines, but I'm getting by for now. After this table, MAYBE I'll have time to better organize the shed and reduce the cramped feeling.  I can see that a 'utility' shed, in which to house my DC/ vacuum gear and air compressor, would be a worth addition. I'm thinking a simple 8x10, right next to the work shed, and pipe everything out through the filler panel next to the Window A/C. BUT...need more power for that!

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Really interesting build Ross and I’m anxious to see the finished piece, very innovative process and jigs to make it happen. 

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Thanks, Dave. I was thinking about it as I wrote the last post, and I believe this ENTIRE project, once the sleds & jigs were built, could be accomplished with no more than the table saw and a drill, including the milling, if you don't mind all your boards being under 3" wide.  Heck, even the jigs themselves take no more than that.   Clamps don't count, but even they could be replaced with rope, cauls, and wedges.

Before sanding, anyway.

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