BigShift Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 I’m building a home gym. I just started drafting plans. I’m looking for any and all feedback and advice. Because I have no idea what I’m doing. I’m thinking: 7ft upright 4x4s 4 ft spacer 4x4s 1.5 ft (ish) 45 4x4s (probly gonna remove the corner wedge things) 1 or 2 in. steel pipes for safety bars, pull-up bar, and gym ring suspension bar 4x4 wedges for gym ring suspension bar bracers & some kinda bolt thru bar or some kind of bracket 1 or 2 in. steel pipe and some type of screw on plate or elbow for squat and press rack hooks I’m considering lag bolts or threaded inlays. I want the sides to be easily removable yet secure for weight bearing. I’ll probably add a dip station somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 It seems substantial enough at 4’ sq.. With 5/16 or 3/8 lag bolts connecting the pieces. 1” sch.40 pipe in both locations should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 Having built and used a similar design, I recommend choosing one side to be the "back", and add a diagonal brace from corner to corner. These devices experience a great deal of racking force, and the diagonal brace will resist that, saving you from almust certain joint failure. A full plywood back is even better, but limits accesibility. Also, any schedule 40 pipe used as a grip surface will feel more secure in the hand at 3/4" than 1". The OD is larger than you might think. Search out some timber framing videos for good ideas on how to make strong joints. Lagged butt joints will disappoint you, eventually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 Diagonal brace, or X across the back, and also in the top to help stabilize the front. Safety bars look a little low, but I would guess you've already figured out what you need? I would rather not have a 4x on the floor at the front. Maybe a flat 1/8" steel bar to hold the spreading load. Put plate storage bars on the outside of the rear supports, and the weight will help stabilize it a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 I was going to say that if Legend Fitness, or Rogue were not in the budget, that the Body Solid stuff was certainly usable. But then I went to look at what Body Solid racks are selling for now. Good luck with the build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjeff70 Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 I'm more of a pair of squat stands only guy. I sold my rack about 10 years ago and now I just have a bar and weights. If I can't clean it I don't squat it. Obviously you can press off the stands. If you train toward failure (which requires a rack) I'd recommend the book, 'Power to the People' instead. Let volume do the work and put to failure training to rest. Power to the People by Pavel Tsatsouline provides the DNA to concentrated loading, advanced level of training. Put the training wheels away. When you get old you'll thank your joints. But since you won't heed this advice I wish you luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 Training to failure doesn't actually require a rack, or even weights, aside from body weight. Few people can manage more than 5 or 6 reps of something like pushups, when you slow the pace to 60-seconds per rep. The continuous tension will stress the muscle groups to a remarkable degree. Sorry to the OP for highjacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 I use a rack just for safety when doing squats. I wouldn't feel comfortable using much weight without one. I only train to failure once a year-week between Christmas and New Years when I won't be doing much else, but talking, anyway. If I did that more often, I couldn't wear normal jeans, and would need more rest than I normally get. With Friday being squat day, I still don't wear jeans on the weekend. I've been doing double body weight squats for decades, but I'm just maintaining, and not trying to grow, so I haven't gone up in max weight over that time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 I often wake up in the middle of the night with answers to problems that I didn't know existed. I woke up at 4:43 thinking that the whole bottom needs to be plywood to take care of the spreading load, and not have anything in the way of feet. I use the bar rests on the inside of the front uprights. It can't fit tight against the wall with them on the back, and also, with cross bracing in the back, there won't be enough clearance to work with the bar. But if you're going to use a pullup bar, there needs to be bar rests on the back uprights too, so you can get the bar out of the way easily. A pullup bar is good for the one ab workout worth doing-hanging leg raises (although a floor roller is the other good one). If it's going to be used for bench press too, there probably needs to be another set of uprights, if it's going to fit flat against a wall. Similar to the Legend 3133 https://www.legendfitness.com/product/power-cage/ That page gives dimensions too. Plate storage could go on the middle upright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jussi Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 I suggest adding a pulley system to replicate cable machine. Working out at home last few months it’s definitely the machine I miss from the gym. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 Tom's plywood floor idea is a good one. The steel rack I used to have incorporated 3" x 1/4" flat bars at the bottom to join the uprights, for the same reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Padstack Posted June 28, 2020 Report Share Posted June 28, 2020 Nice plans! I built something similar a few years back, but used two 2x6's screwed together instead of 4x4's; it ended up cheaper and is still standing after 4 years of decent use. Couple notes: - You might end up hating having any braces on the floor; I don't think you need them either. Finding the right spot for your bench could be tricky if you habe the brace in the wrong area. I have one side acting as the back of the rack and just have a 2x6 on the top and bottom for bracing. I actually have a pulley system (from an old home gym) at the back of mine too so the bottom 2x6 brace is flat over the frame of the pulley system and screwed into the bottom frame of the rack. Works quite well and there is minimal sway. - Depending on the height of your ceiling, the pull-up bar could just go through two holes in the top brace. This would give you a few extra inchea of head room at the top of your movements. - Your top angled braces could just be boards on the outside of the frame. This will allow more area inside the rack, and depending where you put your squat hooks, could free up some room for your fingers, etc. - Make sure you build it wide enough so that A) your bar fits, and B) when you're re-racking the bar after squats you're not hitting your fingers on the 2x6 or 4x4...lesson learnt. - make sure your pipe for the rack hooks is the correct length so that you can fit a spacer in between the floor flange (what acts as the hook) and the rack itself. Otherwise when you go to re-rack, you may end up pushing the hook in and almost killing yourself....another lesson learnt. I added a couple pics of my set-up and a couple links to what I used as inspiration. It's been working quite well for me. I'm not going to be a power lifter or anything, but this definitely gets the job done. http://www.home-gym-bodybuilding.com/homemade-power-rack.html#plans http://imgur.com/gallery/xfdaEIW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyoak Posted June 28, 2020 Report Share Posted June 28, 2020 All good ideas. I'm sure there are many very good ways to build this. I have found a way, when needed to build outdoor tables or racks. For outdoor I use stainless steel screws and titebond 3. If needed to control rack corner brackets will do the trick. From my experiences I would start as the pic. I might replace the 2x4's with 2x6's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyoak Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 I think a 2 x 6 on edge is stronger than same wood 4 x 4. Engineers or people that know, please chime in. Less wood than a 4 x 4 too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted June 29, 2020 Report Share Posted June 29, 2020 I would go with laminated 2x4 (or x6) instead of solid 4x4. Provides the thickness needed to support the bar hooks, but without the cracks & splits that inevitably appear in a 4x4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 Haven't heard from the OP since his one post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 Yeah, a lot of the newcomers of late are just dropping questions, never to return. Here's hoping a few stick around and fully participate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 More spam links… smells like a bot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 In case anyone is confused by @JohnG's post, I removed the post containing the unauthorized link. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 Thanks @wtnhighlander that user has revived several dead threads with likely cut/paste text and spam links. Appreciate your work in cleaning up! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennaRuiz321 Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 You might not need braces on the floor, but adding them in the back or at the top can make the whole structure more solid without getting in the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennaRuiz321 Posted October 17 Report Share Posted October 17 (edited) I also used steel pipes for pull-up bars, and they worked great, but just make sure they’re the right size for your hands—you don’t want them too thick or too thin. Edited October 17 by Chet Edited to remove outside link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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