Cliff Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Anyone have a favorite technique for finishing quartersawn white oak? I'm looking towards Wood Whisperer's Grandfather Clock as an inspiration. I assume there is no problem with putting ARS on top of a dye, but I have no idea for sure. I'm open minded to some ideas. I've never used QSWO before, but to me it's the one wood that looks good with a stain of some sort on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 i used ammonia to fume those lamps i built a while back, it worked wonders and topped it off with garnet shellac all under the advice of @pkinneb and @Chet and probably others, it was the first time i'd done either of those techniques and i was quite impressed with the results on QSWO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pkinneb Posted October 26, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 3 hours ago, treeslayer said: i used ammonia to fume those lamps i built a while back, it worked wonders and topped it off with garnet shellac all under the advice of @pkinneb and @Chet and probably others, it was the first time i'd done either of those techniques and i was quite impressed with the results on QSWO I've done several pieces this way which I learned from an article Mike Pekovich did in FWW. These are all the same just different lighting conditions. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 Chemical reaction coloring, like iron acetate (vinegar & iron) or lye, work similarly to the ammonia fuming process, but produce different tones. Iron acetate leans toward gray-black, while lye is more caramel colored. These methods will produce the most pleasing results if all the wood is from one tree. Otherwise, striking variations may occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 As long as the dye is fully dry you should be able to use ARS over top. It might not be an awful idea to do a coat of dewaxed shellac between the dye and ARS though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted October 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 I had no idea you could use ammonia. That sounds like a great way to accidentally pass out from the fumes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 I've never done fuming, but it will happen one day. The ammonia used is a lot stronger than the stuff you get at the grocery store, so precautions must be taken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 You can use the industrial stuff but I used some I got from Ace Hardware and it worked fine, 6 hours in the plastic tent I built gave a nice color, you have to be careful not to breath it of course, do a search here for some great info as usual, the time in the fumes determines the color you want 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, treeslayer said: You can use the industrial stuff but I used some I got from Ace Hardware and it worked fine, 6 hours in the plastic tent I built gave a nice color, you have to be careful not to breath it of course, do a search here for some great info as usual, the time in the fumes determines the color you want You'd certainly know better than I, that's just what I read somewhere. It's good to know that the household stuff will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 I didn’t know anything until I was mentored by @pkinneband @Chet those guys know way more that I did and on every other topic as well, I really like the result and will be making a couple more lamps in the spring with QSWO and plan on fuming them like last time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 Ammonia can be applied to the surface as well, but tends to get a greenish cast that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mick S Posted October 28, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 I just set it next to the catbox. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post curlyoak Posted October 28, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 This is quartered white oak. door panels curly quartered. I finished it with waterlox transparent sealer. I apply it with a sponge brush. Very easy. If there is a surface that will get a lot of wear, the company makes a compatible varnish. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 37 minutes ago, curlyoak said: This is quartered white oak. door panels curly quartered. I finished it with waterlox transparent sealer. I apply it with a sponge brush. Very easy. If there is a surface that will get a lot of wear, the company makes a compatible varnish. Beautiful piece @curlyoak !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 5 hours ago, pkinneb said: Beautiful piece @curlyoak !! I agree! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post B1rdhunter Posted November 9, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 Just finished this piece for a bathroom today. I use a color called Michaels Cherry Stain which is one of the stains the Amish all over the country use. Then I spray two coats of shellac and finish with General Finish High Performance. The Amish shop that built my doors for the house uses a catalyzed laquer over the same stain and gets a finish that is far superior to mine, I just haven't been brave enough to give it a try. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 Nice piece, simple and well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 That is damn fine! Just out of curiosity, what did the two coats of shellac add to it. I don’t venture out too much from my finishing and would like to add to my repertoire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1rdhunter Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 It pops the figure/rays in the quartersawn. If you just use water base finish it comes out much flatter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 Very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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